| Fabvsix |
| I'd be happy as a clam if they are talking about buying it back and putting you in a new one! Bad apples do exist in ALL auto manufactures, NO one makes 100% perfect vehicles ! YOU will come out ahead......The sad part is what will they do with that vehicle? Wholesale it to some wholesalers who will ebay it to some poor soul........the cycle of life........:( :( Too bad they don't send them back to Acura and put a gun to its head....... |
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| shootist |
Buying it back would be the best outcome for you. Depending on your state's lemon laws, they may have to give you full purchase price, including tax, at four months. So you get four months of car ownership and depreciation free.
Take it and run like a thief. |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by shootist
Buying it back would be the best outcome for you. Depending on your state's lemon laws, they may have to give you full purchase price, including tax, at four months. So you get four months of car ownership and depreciation free.
Take it and run like a thief.
Speaking from experience, I wholeheartedly agree. |
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| SuperTech |
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Originally posted by wiscogirl
Time to discuss the buy back in more detail, I think.
Not quite. I believe the CA lemon law states your car has to be out of service for a combined 30 days and/or come in for the same problem more than 3 times within the first 18 months or 18k miles.
Getting a buyback is not as easy as one might think. In all my time at Acura, we never bought back a vehicle. And the shop "record" was something like 20 days. |
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| wiscogirl |
| I appreciate your insider input - perspective always helps. :) |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by SuperTech
Not quite. I believe the CA lemon law states your car has to be out of service for a combined 30 days and/or come in for the same problem more than 3 times within the first 18 months or 18k miles.
Getting a buyback is not as easy as one might think. In all my time at Acura, we never bought back a vehicle. And the shop "record" was something like 20 days.
Lemon laws in most states favor the manufacturer. If the OP has already had discussions with the dealer about buying it back, she's in better shape than most. |
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| JL_SS |
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Originally posted by wiscogirl
Actually, CA law is vague - which could be good or bad depending on how you look at it. It states that the dealer has a *reasonable amount of time* within the first 18 months/18,000 miles to fix the issue. Obviously, what I consider reasonable may be different then what the dealer thinks.
I am going to talk to the service manager today to get his opinion on the problems and where we go from her - assuming it isn't fixable.
I appreciate your insider input - perspective always helps. :)
It's not really vague at all:
Link
The Lemon Law Presumption***
The Lemon Law presumes that a vehicle is a “lemon”
if the following criteria are met within 18 months of delivery to
the buyer or lessee or 18,000 miles on the vehicle’s odometer,
whichever comes first:
1) The manufacturer or its agents have made four or more
attempts to repair the same warranty problem, or the vehicle
has been out of service for more than 30 days (not necessarily
all at the same time) while being repaired for any number of
warranty problems; or
2) The manufacturer or its agents have made two or more
attempts to repair a warranty problem that results in a
condition that is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury
if the vehicle is driven; and
3) The problems are covered by the warranty, substantially reduce
the vehicle’s use, value, or safety to the consumer and are not
caused by abuse of the vehicle; and
4) If required by the warranty materials or by the owner’s manual,
the consumer has directly notified the manufacturer about the
problem(s), preferably in writing. The notice must be sent to
the address shown in the warranty or owner’s manual.
If these criteria are met, the Lemon Law presumes the buyer or
lessee is entitled to a replacement vehicle or a refund of the
purchase price. However, the manufacturer may show that the
criteria have not been met (for example, because the problems
are minor) and therefore, the buyer or lessee is not entitled to a
replacement vehicle or refund.
*** Source: California Civil Code Section 1793.22(b).
Good Luck! |
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| barnowl |
I'm not sure I understand why the dealership cannot fix it, properly, and promptly.
No brake system pressure?
Being a lay person, it seems like a no brainer.
A leak in the lines or wheel cylinder?
Master cylinder?
ABS manifold?
I had a similar problem on a car years ago, before ABS was invented.
It took the mechanic and I allot of head scratching to figure it out.
It turned out to be the shuttle valve, which was a devise to insure 1/2 braking should a major leak develope. |
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| SuperTech |
| Are you kidding? The master cylinder would have been the first thing I'd have guessed. When you press the brake pedal, you move a rod that pushes a piston in the master cylinder which in turn generates the brake pressure. A bad master cylinder can internally "bypass" past the piston seals and cause a sinking brake pedal. |
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