| ductman |
I had some problem with intermittent engine ping at partial throttle
opening, I have always used exxon or sunoco gas, well i came across an article that some manufacturers recommend " top tier gas" and one of them is honda, supposedly this gas has more than the minimun amounts of detergents, well i filled up with shell 93
which was a recommended brand and i can not believe the difference in the way my x runs, so much smoother and guess what no pinging at times after just 1 tankful, my 2005 x had the same issues, either it was the brand of gas or the stations themselves since i tend to purchase the gas at the same stations. |
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| G. COLTON |
You do realize do you not that all of the fuel comes to the depot in the same pipeline and/or barge. The only difference is what additives are put into the tanks on the truck.
Personally I think that most gases are the same. I buy which ever is most convenient or cheapest. See absolutely no difference in how the vehicles perform.
Now one time about 4 years ago shell put in some bad additives in their fuel that was delivered to about 500 stations in the Southeast. It ruined some in tank fuel senders/sensors. They replaced these items at their expense. I had a vehicle that had a problem and got a check for over $700 from Shell.
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| eujinc |
If the pinging sound is indicative of detonation, changing to a gasoline brand with more detergents isn't really going to solve the issue. Going with a higher octane rated gas should but since you are already putting 93 in, I would guess that probably the stuff that's coming out of the pump at that station perhaps isn't really 93 octane?
Glad your issue is gone by switching to Shell. I typically use Citgo, Costco, Sunoco or whichever brands that have the cheapest 93 octane gas except from small no name / mom & pop gas stations. Have not noticed any pinging on mine. |
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| ductman |
I was typically putting 91 in, I guess 93 makes a difference? Does
the x run that much better on 93 versus 91 |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by ductman
I was typically putting 91 in, I guess 93 makes a difference? Does
the x run that much better on 93 versus 91
Don't have experience with 91 in the X myself, or in any other car for that matter...we only have 87, 89 and 93 here in NY.
However, my Volvo V70R is designed to run on "91" according to the factory. However, on the Volvo forum, everyone reports that the car runs like poop on 91, and that full 300 HP will not be achieved without 93 or higher. Given the fact that it is a turbo 2.5L I-5 running 14 psi of boost, I believe it. I have also seen dyno runs.
On the X, I woulnd't think that it was as important, but it's certainly possible.
BTW, the point about all gas being the same except for the additives is correct. It all comes from the same point at the terminal, etc. |
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| gmc74 |
quote:
Originally posted by eujinc
If the pinging sound is indicative of detonation, changing to a gasoline brand with more detergents isn't really going to solve the issue. Going with a higher octane rated gas should but since you are already putting 93 in, I would guess that probably the stuff that's coming out of the pump at that station perhaps isn't really 93 octane?
I agree, sounds like you were probably getting screwed... not a hard thing to have happen.
I like being in the elevation you don't need as high an octane to get the same results, everyone around here sells 91 as super. |
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| psu1994ca |
Gas is gas is gas... the only difference is if they add additives. Living in CA my wife has worked for BP and Chevron... they both get their gas from the SAME refinery. The mom and pop gas is also from the same gas companies. BP sells to them, Shell Sells to them... it makes NO difference.
They ONLY thing that is different is the additives that Chevron or Shell add to the gas. |
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| jsonmdx07 |
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Originally posted by Needsdecaf
Don't have experience with 91 in the X myself, or in any other car for that matter...we only have 87, 89 and 93 here in NY.
However, my Volvo V70R is designed to run on "91" according to the factory. However, on the Volvo forum, everyone reports that the car runs like poop on 91, and that full 300 HP will not be achieved without 93 or higher. Given the fact that it is a turbo 2.5L I-5 running 14 psi of boost, I believe it. I have also seen dyno runs.
On the X, I woulnd't think that it was as important, but it's certainly possible.
BTW, the point about all gas being the same except for the additives is correct. It all comes from the same point at the terminal, etc.
Rght, there's no 91 here in ny, we have to use 93 for our X. I don't think it's gonna make a big difference between 91 and 93. 93 don't cost much more than 91 i guess. maybe 3-4 dollars up for full tank. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by jsonmdx07
Rght, there's no 91 here in ny, we have to use 93 for our X. I don't think it's gonna make a big difference between 91 and 93. 93 don't cost much more than 91 i guess. maybe 3-4 dollars up for full tank.
I doubt it costs any more, 91 seems to be more readily available in place of 92 or 93 (94 in some places) in higher altitudes where the fuel/air mixture is different due to the thinness of the air. |
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| Mike_TX |
There's virtually no 93 octane here in North Texas, and some areas (like West Texas) go no higher than 90. So 91 octane is fine.
I haven't used much of anything other than Walmart gas in my X since I got it. Just when I was out of town and had to use something else. No pinging, no problems and good mileage over the last 6,500 miles. (My local Walmart gas stations are run by Murphy Oil Co., out of Oklahoma.)
I personally don't buy the hype that big-name gas is better.
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| Needsdecaf |
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Originally posted by Mike_TX
I personally don't buy the hype that big-name gas is better.
Big name gas does have better additives.
In terms of performance, it's all about octane. |
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| Heat00 |
who can afford 93 anyomre????
around here, yesterday 93 was going for about $3.50 / gallon..
holy crap......
Especially when I drive 35k / year. you figure it out. I have to stop for gas every other day, sometimes every day. that $4-$5.00 / fill up ads up quickly.
I started out using only 93, but now I've been mixing it up a bit, even going to 87. hope there is no problem with that lol.
its just getting expensive... |
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| ductman |
quote:
Originally posted by Heat00
who can afford 93 anyomre????
around here, yesterday 93 was going for about $3.50 / gallon..
holy crap......
Especially when I drive 35k / year. you figure it out. I have to stop for gas every other day, sometimes every day. that $4-$5.00 / fill up ads up quickly.
I started out using only 93, but now I've been mixing it up a bit, even going to 87. hope there is no problem with that lol.
its just getting expensive...
I can feel the PAIN , I drive approx 35k per year also, sometimes I
wish I was in a more fuel efficient vehicle. |
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| Needsdecaf |
quote:
Originally posted by Heat00
who can afford 93 anyomre????
around here, yesterday 93 was going for about $3.50 / gallon..
holy crap......
Especially when I drive 35k / year. you figure it out. I have to stop for gas every other day, sometimes every day. that $4-$5.00 / fill up ads up quickly.
I started out using only 93, but now I've been mixing it up a bit, even going to 87. hope there is no problem with that lol.
its just getting expensive...
I feel your pain. For my current job, my first 6 years commuting lead to the following mileages: 37,000, 37,500, 32,000, 41,000, 44,000 and 39,000.
In my Pathfinder (41, 44 and 39k) I used to run a mix of 93 and 89, alternating tanks to try to make 91. Didn't hurt a bit.
Considering 91 passes for premimum in many parts of the country, you should be fine doing this. |
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| ductman |
Well i found out that Sunoco gas sucks, i just filled up with ultra 93
and well, ping city, never sunoco again!!!:3: |
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