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bigpecs1
hey guys! just out of curiousity... how much gas is left in the tank when the low fuel warning light lits up? thanks
LionSpeed
Plenty. After the stupid obnoxious DING warning sound strictly made for retard like me .... duh duh you are running out of gas you retard sound, I've managed to continue driving for an additional 60 miles until refill.

Same take on the seat belt warning for retards. :1pat:
theOldMan
Verified this last week. The car went on reserve and then filled the tank after driving about 15km. At the time I filled, it took 66.7 liters of fuel, the tank holds 79 liters.

My truck averages about 11.6 liters per 100km (20.3mpg). In other words, in my case, when it goes on reserve you are good for about 65 miles or about 100km. Just before the reserve light went on, the trip computer was saying that I was good for about 70kms. In other words as it is coming up to reserve, you have more miles/km left than it is showing.
rsnaider
Page 71 - RTFM!!!

Or for those that choose not to, 1.8 Gallons when the light comes on.
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KES
I reset the trip odometer to track the mileage from when the light went on and figure I have at least 40 miles to empty. Has not failed me yet.
kims MDX
This "how far can you go when the light comes on" question will be one of my wife's biggest challenges as she transitions from her Landcruiser to her new MDX.

The Cruiser had the largest tank (25 gal) and the most accurate fuel gauge I've ever seen in a car. When the light came on, we could predict within .1 or .2 gal that the tank would take 20 gal to fill up. If stopping was not convenient, she would punch the trip odo and know that she could go 75 miles till empty.

The "ding" will be a plus for her. Over the years, she occasionally missed the little yellow light on the panel.

Kim
ductman
quote:
Originally posted by bigpecs1
hey guys! just out of curiousity... how much gas is left in the tank when the low fuel warning light lits up? thanks


Depends if you are going uphill or downhill:4:
gmc74
quote:
Originally posted by rsnaider
Page 71 - RTFM!!!

Or for those that choose not to, 1.8 Gallons when the light comes on.



That isn't accurate
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Needsdecaf
quote:
Originally posted by gmc74


That isn't accurate



Correct. According to the manual, it is 1.8 gallons from when the light comes before the needle reaches E. There is then a small reserve remaining in the tank when the needle does reach E.

WTF does THAT mean?!?!? :confused: Only crazy Japanese engineers would write something like that.
rsnaider
quote:
Originally posted by gmc74


That isn't accurate



But it is in the manual so it has to be correct.......
LionSpeed
quote:
Originally posted by rsnaider


But it is in the manual so it has to be correct.......



Not entirely. I look at it this way, nothing is perfect, no such thing is 100% accurate. The margin of error might be minimal but there's always room for errors. ;)
dj-mdx2
So, GOI, and refuel when the indicator has 1/4 left, thereby saving you from a) a long walk to the nearest gas station and back with a canister full of flammable liquid, b) waiting for a tow truck, c) possible robbery while you're gone or stopped, d) death by dismemberment as you disembark form your vehicle on the highway.
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LionSpeed
Funny that you said that. I would always try to refill way before the stupid retard DING sound pops up. It's almost like hahahaha "you can't get me sucker". :D
Needsdecaf
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Originally posted by rsnaider


But it is in the manual so it has to be correct.......



What you wrote and what the manual say are two different things. 1.8 Gallons left from when the light comes on until the needle reaches E. Then there is still gas left. How much it does not tell us.
bigpecs1
I managed to drive approx 40miles with the low fuel warning on and when I stopped at the gas station the trip computer showed that I still had 25miles to empty. So I guess we have at least 60 miles from the time the warning light comes on till empty. Btw, i was reading some posts in the general forum about not running your vehicle when the low fuel warning lights up to avoid overheating of the fuel pump and damaging it in the process. Any thoughts on this guys?
bigpecs1
I just read the manual and it stated that we should not run the vehicle on low fuel (I guess consistently) because it might cause the engine to misfire and damage the catalytic converter... :confused:
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bigpecs1
any expert opinions out there?;)
gmc74
quote:
Originally posted by bigpecs1
I just read the manual and it stated that we should not run the vehicle on low fuel (I guess consistently) because it might cause the engine to misfire and damage the catalytic converter... :confused:


I have always heard that if you run the gas low that you will be likely to pull the sediment that gathers at the bottom of the tank into the fuel line, but I have never really bought into that.
coulomberic
quote:
Originally posted by theOldMan
Verified this last week. The car went on reserve and then filled the tank after driving about 15km. At the time I filled, it took 66.7 liters of fuel, the tank holds 79 liters.


I put 92 liters in the damn thing last week. I had 15 Kms left.
I don't know where it went!
hipcheck
Click and Clack have discussed this on their show. They have noted that running to the point of the fuel light coming on encourages gas line freeze and also can cause some problems due to the gunk that accumulates in the tank.

Now if you live in Arizona part 1 isn't an issue. For me, the tank on the MDX is a bit small for the MPG and I find myself filling up a little more often than I prefer.
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theOldMan
quote:
Originally posted by coulomberic


I put 92 liters in the damn thing last week. I had 15 Kms left.
I don't know where it went!



Either your pump is lying to you or the Acura specification for the amount of fuel the MDX holds is really wrong. If indeed the tank holds over 90 liters, that would suggest that reserve distance is almost 200km.

This table is taken from the Acura web site:

CAPACITIES
Cargo volume (2nd and 3rd rows folded) 2364 litres
Fuel tank capacity 79.5 litres
Passenger volume 4026 litres
Windshield washer fluid tank 6.5 litres

:eek:
theOldMan
quote:
Originally posted by gmc74


I have always heard that if you run the gas low that you will be likely to pull the sediment that gathers at the bottom of the tank into the fuel line, but I have never really bought into that.




It is true, if the tank runs very low you will pull sediment from the bottom. The sediment can include rust and water. In older cars the effect was the the blocking of the fuel filter and rough running. In newer cars, it can cause problems with all the various sensors in the fuel system. This can cause faults to be triggered that need to be reset by the dealer.

It is never a good idea to run a car to empty on a regular basis.
bigpecs1
quote:
Originally posted by hipcheck
Click and Clack have discussed this on their show. They have noted that running to the point of the fuel light coming on encourages gas line freeze

I read in the general discussion forum that the fuel pump may "overheat" but there wasn't anything mentioned about something "freezing"...
:confused:
bigpecs1
quote:
Originally posted by theOldMan



It is never a good idea to run a car to empty on a regular basis.


I agree that it's never a good idea to run a car Empty on a regular basis. But when do you guys consider it Empty ? When the needle is at "E" and the trip computer says "0" miles, or when the Low Fuel Warning light comes on?
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KES
Running a tank to empty.....

I alway run my tank right to the bottom. My 95 Accord I did this all the time and put on a 145K with no problems and my 02 MDX has 95K again no problems. In both vehicles I have put in the tank capacityon numerous occasions. Perhaps by alway doing this nothing of substance accumulates.
eujinc
The opening into the gas line is at the bottom of the gas tank. So the very first thing that is sucked out regardless of fuel level should be whatever sediment and water (since water is heavier than gasoline) at the bottom.

For me, I only fill up when I can no longer stand the idiot low fuel light or based on my calc, I would run out of gas before reaching my destination. Even when the Range reached 0, I've found that there is still over a gallon of fuel in the tank.
LionSpeed
quote:
Originally posted by KES
Running a tank to empty.....

I alway run my tank right to the bottom. My 95 Accord I did this all the time and put on a 145K with no problems and my 02 MDX has 95K again no problems. In both vehicles I have put in the tank capacityon numerous occasions. Perhaps by alway doing this nothing of substance accumulates.



Are you my lost twin?

I always run till empty empty, until the needle way passes the E, until there is no more room the needle to go pass. :D

My '91 CRX was the living proof with 250,000 miles on in with not a single problem. Having said that, this MDX's retard "running out of gas you idiot driver" DING bugs the hell out of me. I'd avoid hearing/seeing that at all cost.... by filling up before it gets me. ;)
rjhubbard53
quote:
Originally posted by LionSpeed


Are you my lost twin?

I always run till empty empty, until the needle way passes the E, until there is no more room the needle to go pass. :D

My '91 CRX was the living proof with 250,000 miles on in with not a single problem. Having said that, this MDX's retard "running out of gas you idiot driver" DING bugs the hell out of me. I'd avoid hearing/seeing that at all cost.... by filling up before it gets me. ;)



is it for the 'thrill' of it? Geesh... jsut stop and get some fuel :)

Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when Kramer was testing the car's fuel capacity. .
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bigpecs1
I rarely drive my vehicles with less than 1/4 tank of gas, but there are certain situations where you dont want to stop in certain towns/areas especially at night. Thats when I just keep driving, a hoping I'll get to my destination before the needle gets to "E "
dj-mdx2
quote:
Originally posted by bigpecs1
I rarely drive my vehicles with less than 1/4 tank of gas, but there are certain situations where you dont want to stop in certain towns/areas especially at night. Thats when I just keep driving, a hoping I'll get to my destination before the needle gets to "E "

That's when you can turn on the gas station icon in the NAV, and keep on driving to a safer area.:29:
KES
quote:
Originally posted by rjhubbard53


is it for the 'thrill' of it? Geesh... jsut stop and get some fuel :)

Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when Kramer was testing the car's fuel capacity. .



The thrill of it - yes sometimes. I am pretty good at estimating how much gas will go in when I fill up. And yes, some day I will probably be calling AAA for some petrol. The last time was 1993 and I knowingly took a gamble on that trip. And yes, lost.

But it is mostly due to the fact of when the light comes on and where I am in my 45 mile round trip commute. I figure I have 40 miles guaranteed and prefer to get gas near my house in the morning on my way home from the gym (i.e. not crowded). Up until several months ago there was one station near work and since they had a monopoly the prices where at least 15 cents higher. A new station has opened up so now I have a little more flexibility.
bigpecs1
So what do you guys think of what others say about the fuel pump system getting "overheated" if you continue to run your vehicle with the low fuel warning light ON?
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Needsdecaf
quote:
Originally posted by bigpecs1
So what do you guys think of what others say about the fuel pump system getting "overheated" if you continue to run your vehicle with the low fuel warning light ON?


I don't buy this at all. Pumps only overheat when they're not pumping anything. If you're running with the light on, you're still pumping fuel. And I don't think there's anything that's factored in giving a cooling effect in terms of the pump being submerged, etc. There are plenty of cars running external fuel pumps.

As for running empty vs. sediment, as has been mentioned, the pickup is at the bottom where the sediment and water are. That's why there's a fuel filter.

As for running to EMPTY (as in engine dies), I would agree that this is not a good thing to do on a regular basis. I'm not sure how quickly the fuel would run out vs. the car failing to run, but running lean (not enough fuel in the fuel / air mixture) does cause high EGT and possible cat damage. And knock.

Besides, who wants to deal with running out of gas.....
eujinc
I did it again last weekend. Drove till Range = 0 as I pulled into the gas station. Had to fill 19.051 gal. So there's still almost 2 gals in the tank which should give you at least another 30 miles. If you go easy on the gas pedal, you should be able to squeeze out 40 miles.

I was drafting a Walmart tractor trailer a good way on the PA turnpike and that actually helped the mileage a little (my exit was over 20 miles away).


That was thrilling. :D

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