| slowhand23 |
| FYI.... Acura announced 08M Tech & Sport X's produced after April 1 will come standard with power tailgate. Price will increase $550. Formally this feature was limited to Entertainment package only. |
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| craniotes |
If this is true, then it's about time they did this. For the life of me, how this feature was lumped in with the Entertainment package is beyond me; unless of course it was geared towards idiots -- like me -- who get a kick out of opening and closing the hatch from their fourth floor hotel room while people walk past their X in the parking lot. ;) (I couldn't resist -- it was my first family road trip in the X and it was still brand new.)
On the other hand, $550 for a tiny motor and some extra wiring? :rolleyes: That seems like a lot of scratch for a feature that should've been standard in the first place.
Regards,
Adam |
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| Fabvsix |
| Did you expect it to be FREE or no rise in cost ???? That tells one that the Sport IS selling as is the Tech (we knew that already) so typical for Honda to do this once the demand is there.....The more they add you can expect price increase. Want a V8? What do you think that would cost us ? :1: BTW I love the auto hatch feature! Also the remote has to be beefed up to accomodate that feature so its not just a "little" motor and some wiring......it's integrating it into the remote, button on the drivers doors etc.... |
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| craniotes |
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
Did you expect it to be FREE or no rise in cost ????
Nope, nor did I say that (and who's talking about a V8 here?).
Simply stated, I feel that $550 is a lot of money for a feature that a) should be standard across the board, and b) has already had its R&D cost spread out over two years. IMO, $550 is a lot for this option (which entails nothing more than a bunch of wires and a tiny motor -- oh, and one interior button and a dinky, plastic remote). $300 seems more reasonable.
Regards,
Adam |
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| m500 |
Optional V8 would be nice but I don't think I'll be able to afford the number of visit needed to the local pump station on 91 octane.
We'll need a L4 turbo like the old SAAB. Pulls like a V8 and quiet like a V8 but with the fuel efficiency of 4 cylinder. I wouldn't mind to if to have an V4 or V6 twin turbo under my hood. |
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| phins2rt |
| I agree with craniotes. Should have at least been an option for all models. $550 is a bit much and I think they should have offered it as an option and instead of not giving you a choice. $.02. |
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| csmeance |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
I agree with craniotes. Should have at least been an option for all models. $550 is a bit much and I think they should have offered it as an option and instead of not giving you a choice. $.02.
Actually it is a fair price, with this quite a few parts need to be changed:
Alarm antenna
Alarm remotes
Wiring from immoblizer to rear
Motor
Hook-ons to hatch
Electronic lock
together these should cost about 500 to 550 dollars. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by csmeance
Actually it is a fair price, with this quite a few parts need to be changed:
Alarm antenna
Alarm remotes
Wiring from immoblizer to rear
Motor
Hook-ons to hatch
Electronic lock
together these should cost about 500 to 550 dollars.
What? Alarm antenna and remotes?
Wiring, motor and a button should do it. Do the Entertainment package vehicles come with a different remote, if so then that one would work for all of them.
I am a little bitter that I don't have this, and would gladly pay a few hundred for it... not much more than that though, 300 sounds about right. Parts are probably less than $100... |
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| Drifter |
Dumass feature for truly lazy people who don't appreciate more performance or the value of more driver oriented, pragmatic or visually stimulating features such as more power, std roof rails, BSM, tow hitch, 19" wheels, side steps or just about any other option except that totally lame and goofy feature for the geriatric generation.
Disappointed that Acura isn't focused on competitve differentiation through more effective methods. |
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| csmeance |
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Originally posted by gmc74
What? Alarm antenna and remotes?
Wiring, motor and a button should do it. Do the Entertainment package vehicles come with a different remote, if so then that one would work for all of them.
I am a little bitter that I don't have this, and would gladly pay a few hundred for it... not much more than that though, 300 sounds about right. Parts are probably less than $100...
The cars with ent. have different 4 button remotes, the one you have are 3 button remotes. Also the request to open the trunk is carried out by the alarm system, and the antenna must have the ability to discover the higher or lower freqency signal. |
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| csmeance |
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Originally posted by Drifter
Dumass feature for truly lazy people who don't appreciate more performance or the value of more driver oriented, pragmatic or visually stimulating features such as more power, std roof rails, BSM, tow hitch, 19" wheels, side steps or just about any other option except that totally lame and goofy feature for the geriatric generation.
Disappointed that Acura isn't focused on competitve differentiation through more effective methods.
Before you start bashing people and features think about it next time. I am not a lazy person at all, and not a dumbass either. This feature is useful, I carry a lot of heavy stuff or bulky stuff (towels for example) and the remote trunk function has helped out quite a bit compared to cars without it.
Acura's approach to selling the MDX is good, and it seems that you only look at one side and not the other. Acura offers about 4 packages for the MDX with acessories, this makes it simple to buy and remove/add stuff later that you want.
On the other hand, you love to have options that can be only installed in the factory such as what BMW does. Acura has a simple approach that is working for them, especially in a world where gas is approaching 4 dollars a gallon and the car gets 15 MPG.
Acura has never been there for power, if you want more of it go to a different manufacturer. Acura has been there to provide cars with technical innovations. Power must be increased to compete, but they see no reason at this point to have gas guzzling v8's. |
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| Norb |
| Its not a dumb feature. My wife is petite and its handy for her to just push a button rather than try and jump up to close it. Such short sighted people here. |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by Drifter
Dumass feature for truly lazy people who don't appreciate more performance or the value of more driver oriented, pragmatic or visually stimulating features such as more power, std roof rails, BSM, tow hitch, 19" wheels, side steps or just about any other option except that totally lame and goofy feature for the geriatric generation.
Disappointed that Acura isn't focused on competitve differentiation through more effective methods.
Wow, that is ignorant...
19" wheels are a waste, and side steps are no more useful... |
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| gmc74 |
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Originally posted by csmeance
The cars with ent. have different 4 button remotes, the one you have are 3 button remotes. Also the request to open the trunk is carried out by the alarm system, and the antenna must have the ability to discover the higher or lower freqency signal.
Those are all parts that are swapped out, rather than added, so the cost there is minimal if any.
The motor, the wiring and the button are definite additional costs. Though I bet the wiring gets added to all vehicles soon, since it is easier to manufacture that way. |
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| Dishoom |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
I agree with craniotes. Should have at least been an option for all models. $550 is a bit much and I think they should have offered it as an option and instead of not giving you a choice. $.02.
I think $550 is actually a bargain for this feature. I paid a premium by buying into the ENT pkg just for this feature...I have yet to even use the ENT system! If people here think $550 is too much for a power liftgate, maybe you shouldn't have even bought an MDX. Have you guys even tried to option out a German car? Heated seats are a $500 option on most of them! I'm sure if Acura just raised the price by $550 and made it standard on all MDX's, most people probably won't even have noticed. My gripe is that they bundled it with the ENT pkg just so people would pay the extra $$$ to get it...smart on their part. |
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| Dishoom |
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Originally posted by Drifter
Dumass feature for truly lazy people who don't appreciate more performance or the value of more driver oriented, pragmatic or visually stimulating features such as more power, std roof rails, BSM, tow hitch, 19" wheels, side steps or just about any other option except that totally lame and goofy feature for the geriatric generation.
Disappointed that Acura isn't focused on competitve differentiation through more effective methods.
hmmm...so which competitor includes all that stuff standard? i can't think of a single one. besides, most of the features you indicated are subjective, whereas a power liftgate (option or standard) is something people expect out of a $40k vehicle. and before you start calling people "dumass," maybe you should learn to spell...DUMBASS! :-) |
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| bimmerguy288 |
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Originally posted by Dishoom
I think $550 is actually a bargain for this feature. I paid a premium by buying into the ENT pkg just for this feature...I have yet to even use the ENT system! If people here think $550 is too much for a power liftgate, maybe you shouldn't have even bought an MDX. Have you guys even tried to option out a German car? Heated seats are a $500 option on most of them! I'm sure if Acura just raised the price by $550 and made it standard on all MDX's, most people probably won't even have noticed. My gripe is that they bundled it with the ENT pkg just so people would pay the extra $$$ to get it...smart on their part.
I too purchased the ent. package mainly for the power hatch. The DVD player has little value to us since we take long car trips maybe only once a year and the kids play handheld games most of the time. The power hatch is handy when you are holding a lot stuff in your hands and it's raining. You don't need to put your stuff down on the wet and muddy ground so that you can free up your hand to open the hatch.
It's one of those things that once you use it, you want it. |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by Dishoom
My gripe is that they bundled it with the ENT pkg just so people would pay the extra $$$ to get it...smart on their part.
It couldn't have been too smart since they are changing the way they package the option. :D They must believe the bundling of it with the Ent package is not working out.
People complained on the 1st gen that they didn't want to pay for the extra stuff on the touring just to get the RES or the NAV. It just goes to show the cross section of customers that Acura has. Value minded as well as luxury minded. |
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| tophinator |
| Its a bummer they are just now adding this feature without having to purchase the RES. I would have paid the 550$ for it. Sadly, at the time i purchased I didnt see the need to get a RES that I would never use since I dont have kids. As of now I get a little envious when I see someone's RX power tailgate opening and closing while I have to set down my items I'm carrying to open mine. |
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| Dishoom |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
It couldn't have been too smart since they are changing the way they package the option. :D They must believe the bundling of it with the Ent package is not working out.
People complained on the 1st gen that they didn't want to pay for the extra stuff on the touring just to get the RES or the NAV. It just goes to show the cross section of customers that Acura has. Value minded as well as luxury minded.
well smart on their part to make it bundling it as part of an expensive package during the initial release of the MDX. they were trying to gain market share and make money by basically forcing people to pony up more money to get the power liftgate feature. now that the MDX has been established in the market place, and the fact that the economy has changed, Acura is changing its strategy to offer it throughout the range. i'm sure they probably got a lot of complaints from consumers and their dealers about not offering the power liftgate as a stand-alone option or as a standard item. i'm sure in the future (perhaps 2009) this feature will probably become standard. |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by Dishoom
well smart on their part to make it bundling it as part of an expensive package during the initial release of the MDX. they were trying to gain market share and make money by basically forcing people to pony up more money to get the power liftgate feature. now that the MDX has been established in the market place, and the fact that the economy has changed, Acura is changing its strategy to offer it throughout the range. i'm sure they probably got a lot of complaints from consumers and their dealers about not offering the power liftgate as a stand-alone option or as a standard item. i'm sure in the future (perhaps 2009) this feature will probably become standard.
Or maybe they lost market share because people would not pony up the extra $$ as stated by tophinator above. Remember Acura has historically been a value leader first, luxury second. So their customers tend to be based more on the value side of the value-luxury equation.
It is good to see that they are making this a standard feature. I'm not sure if the mid year price increase will confuse the customer or not. I don't know if this option is standard on Lexus, BMW, etc. If it isn't, it might be a little bit of an advantage. |
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| MDX4now |
I'm glad a feature that has been for the most part integral in most Dodge Grand Caravan and Chrysler Town & Country MINIVANS since 2000 is finally making itself mainstream in the MDX lineup for a "reasonable" $550 dollars...so generous...
"It seems DaimlerChrysler decided to match everyone else with the dual power sliders and then raise them one with a power liftgate, priced at $295. No one else offers this feature, at least not yet." - (Per article from 2001)
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| Needsdecaf |
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Originally posted by MDX4now
I'm glad a feature that has been for the most part integral in most Dodge Grand Caravan's and Chrysler Town & Country's MINIVANS since 2000 is finally making itself mainstream in the MDX lineup for a "reasonable" $550 dollars...so generous...
"It seems DaimlerChrysler decided to match everyone else with the dual power sliders and then raise them one with a power liftgate, priced at $295. No one else offers this feature, at least not yet." - (Per article from 2001)
:rolleyes:
Maybe that's a small reason why Chrysler lost Cerberus (sp?) about $1.5 BN in it's first year of ownership. ;) |
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| Salman |
| isn't this some sort of april fool joke :) |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by Salman
isn't this some sort of april fool joke :)
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4449
Starting April 1, 2008, all MDX models manufactured with either Technology or Sport packages will feature a power-activated rear tailgate. When the MDX is in Park, the power rear tailgate can be operated via a driver's door-mounted button or with the press of a button on the key fob. The MDX's power tailgate simplifies access to rear cargo area and includes an auto-reverse function for enhanced safety.
To compensate for the added luxury and convenience, the price for Technology and Sport package models will increase by a modest $550, to $44,245 and $46,345, respectively. Base MDX pricing remains unchanged.
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| Salman |
sweet....well the timing made me question the validity of the news but if it is acura.com it should be authentic...
welll as for me i was going for entertainment package anyways so i would have had the power tailgate but it is great to see them taking all this feedback |
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| phins2rt |
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Originally posted by Salman
sweet....well the timing made me question the validity of the news but if it is acura.com it should be authentic...
Your comment got me thinking and the claim had never been confirmed so I just double checked! Good luck with the purchase. You're going to love this vehicle! |
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| Salman |
Thanks :)
i will post the pics as soon as i can :) |
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| Yumitori |
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Originally posted by slowhand23
FYI.... Acura announced 08M Tech & Sport X's produced after April 1 will come standard with power tailgate. Price will increase $550. Formally this feature was limited to Entertainment package only.
Gee, didnt some one already post this information back in March?
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...4151#post394151 |
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| csmeance |
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Originally posted by phins2rt
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4449
Starting April 1, 2008, all MDX models manufactured with either Technology or Sport packages will feature a power-activated rear tailgate. When the MDX is in Park, the power rear tailgate can be operated via a driver's door-mounted button or with the press of a button on the key fob. The MDX's power tailgate simplifies access to rear cargo area and includes an auto-reverse function for enhanced safety.
To compensate for the added luxury and convenience, the price for Technology and Sport package models will increase by a modest $550, to $44,245 and $46,345, respectively. Base MDX pricing remains unchanged.
That's lame, Right now if i'm in reverse or drive, I can open up the power tailgate via the button. Oh well, I'm sure some idiot hit his garage door or someone with the tailgate while he was reversing... |
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