| caligirl |
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| dj-mdx2 |
| Thankfully, mine has been fine. Good luck with getting a new one, then you can really enjoy your X. |
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| csmeance |
The clicking is a problem with a small switch behind the gas pedal, it needs to be turned about a half circle clockwise, this was a problem with the TL before. For the power steering, they should have replaced the pump for it, or checked why it is loosing power. For the door-handle, a tsb was given out, the door lock freezes and there is a fix for it.
For the lemon law process, acura will get a last time to try to fix the issues, an engineer from cooperate will also troubleshoot these problems as well at that time. If after that time, any of the same problems arise, you get a new car. If not, then you are done. |
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| ExRiGuy |
| I have a "lemon", and a bad stealership as well -- the 07 MDX has a ton of unhappy customers -- so many that Acura is doing all it can to not buy back cars out of fear of an avalanche I suspect. |
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| craniotes |
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Originally posted by ExRiGuy
I have a lemon, and a bad stealership as well -- the 07 MDX has a ton of unhappy customers -- so many that Acura is doing all it can to not buy back cars out of fear of an avalanche.
Thank God I'm one of the lucky few then, huh? :rolleyes: Mine spins like a top -- best car I've ever owned. No problems, big or small.
To caligirl, what you're experiencing is in no way par for the course, and I do hope that you manage to get the car lemoned. Every manufacturer has a few bad apples (ok, lemons), and you got "lucky" so to speak. Heck, ExRiGuy's vaunted Enclave (and its Lambda-bodied brethren) has had its share of lemons (leaking roofs, wonky transmissions, full-on engine failures), and no, GM doesn't make it easy for the consumer to get satisfaction.
Hang in there, and keep pressing them.
Regards,
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| ExRiGuy |
Agree. You are lucky. This board has far more problem threads than it should for a $45k premium "Acura" -- though I know you will never admit that.
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Originally posted by craniotes
Thank God I'm one of the lucky few then, huh? :rolleyes: Mine spins like a top -- best car I've ever owned. No problems, big or small.
To caligirl, what you're experiencing is in no way par for the course, and I do hope that you manage to get the car lemoned. Every manufacturer has a few bad apples (ok, lemons), and you got "lucky" so to speak. Heck, ExRiGuy's vaunted Enclave (and its Lambda-bodied brethren) has had its share of lemons (leaking roofs, wonky transmissions, full-on engine failures), and no, GM doesn't make it easy for the consumer to get satisfaction.
Hang in there, and keep pressing them.
Regards,
Adam
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| craniotes |
quote:
Originally posted by ExRiGuy
Agree. You are lucky. This board has far more problem threads than it should for a $45k premium "Acura" -- though I know you will never admit that.
Check out any Mercedes, BMW, VW, Land Rover forum and you'll see that we're not any worse, and in most cases far better. Again, the same applies to GM's Lambda vehicles, which have exhibited some of the most ridiculous off-the-factory-floor foibles I've ever seen. I'm sorry, but a leaking roof, which in turn shorts out the car's electrical system is inexcusable at any price (of course, given the chip on your shoulder, I know that you will never admit that :rolleyes: ).
I mean, hey, I'm sorry that you're not satisfied with your ride, but don't paint 'em all with the same brush.
Regards,
Adam
PS - Damn, and to think that I was the only guy defending you and your Buick the last time you got beat down on this forum... |
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| bigpecs1 |
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Originally posted by ExRiGuy
Agree. You are lucky. This board has far more problem threads than it should for a $45k premium "Acura" -- though I know you will never admit that.
Whether it's a $10,000 or $100,000 vehicle, there will ALWAYS be problems. I read a year or so ago of a Mercedes Benz AMG CLK-GTR Roadster that cost $1.7M and was, according to the dealer, a lemon! Heck if there was a car manufacturer that has ZERO problems with their vehicles, everybody would be buying their vehicle! But there's none! I bought my MDX with the HOPES that it would be reliable and with no MAJOR problems, and Im basing that on the GENERAL reliablity of Honda/Acura which, according to Consumer Reports, is better than most vehicles out there. So whatever makes you sleep good at night man. Let's just all enjoy our blessings!:2: btw, gas here in our area is $3.63/g for premium...:3: oh well... |
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| ExRiGuy |
I could post pages of complaints with my dealer and vehicle that I have had (e.g. 4th set of control arms, can't get my gas cap cover to open after 3 dealer visits, eaten CD's, failed airbag sensor, replaced door handles, jammed ignition, chatter like a diesel at idle, rattles, rattles, rattles, wind noise . . . ). I agree that Lambda's aren't perfect, but never said they were (but mine has been totally trouble free after 11k miles) -- but in the main I do not see anywhere near the compliants in those forums as here and just about as many are sold each month of just the Buick. And I realize Honda can make good cars -- as I have owned them.
As to your references for quality, other than BMW you bring up some notorious quality offenders -- fact is Lexus is what most folks compare Acura to and that is where, in my opinion, the 07 MDX fails. Maybe 08 is better and 09 will be Lexus-quality -- hope so.
As to past forum threads -- it is hardly an objective forum or fair fight with so much at stake for some in protecting the value/reputation of the MDX -- sometimes I forget this is a board for subjective viewpoint only -- thanks for the reminder that dissent/discontent is not welcome here -- better try to stomp it out with as much brute force as possible.
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Originally posted by craniotes
Check out any Mercedes, BMW, VW, Land Rover forum and you'll see that we're not any worse, and in most cases far better. Again, the same applies to GM's Lambda vehicles, which have exhibited some of the most ridiculous off-the-factory-floor foibles I've ever seen. I'm sorry, but a leaking roof, which in turn shorts out the car's electrical system is inexcusable at any price (of course, given the chip on your shoulder, I know that you will never admit that :rolleyes: ).
I mean, hey, I'm sorry that you're not satisfied with your ride, but don't paint 'em all with the same brush.
Regards,
Adam
PS - Damn, and to think that I was the only guy defending you and your Buick the last time you got beat down on this forum...
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| craniotes |
I'm sorry, but what exactly do you mean when you say that Mercedes, VW and Land Rover are "notorious quality offenders"? Does this mean that we shouldn't compare our MDXs with the analogous CUVs in their respective model lines, even though they retail at $45K+? Should Acura be held to a higher standard? In your world, I suppose, though it seems to me that these are the brands that we should be comparing our cars to. As for Lexus, well it's pretty clear that you haven't spent a lot of time on their boards, or you would know that RX's suffer from rattling dashboards, transmission problems, stereo problems, etc., most of which are acknowledged by Lexus as issues that need to be addressed.
Again, I'm sorry that you've had so many problems with your MDX, but the truth of the matter is that your experience is hardly the norm, and I believe that most of the folks here would agree with me. And no, neither I nor anyone else here has anything at stake in terms of protecting the image or reputation of our Acuras -- in fact, it's quite the opposite. Considering that we're here in the first place, it stands to reason that we're going to the first ones decrying the flaws in our vehicles, looking to create a consensus that allows us to go to our dealerships informed.
Regards,
Adam
PS - And at no time did I dismiss your opinion or imply that you aren't entitled to express it; I simply presented mine, which you took offense to. If you want to dish it -- which you have -- then be prepared to take it in kind. |
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| ExRiGuy |
Acuras are compared to Lexus as quality, content, purpose etc. go more so than any other mark -- surely you cannot disgaree with a straight face? How many folks really struggle with an MDX versus LR3 or Touraeg choice?
Admittedly have not spent time on RX boards for no reason so will have to take your word that they are rife with trouble -- but sounds odd considering I have owned 2 Lexus products that were in a different league than MY MDX as quality goes.
BTW, your eye rolling icon and "thank God" / "lucky few" comment was as dismissive as can be . . . in case you felt "wrongly accused" of being subjective.
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Originally posted by craniotes
I'm sorry, but what exactly do you mean when you say that Mercedes, VW and Land Rover are "notorious quality offenders"? Does this mean that we shouldn't compare our MDXs with the analogous CUVs in their respective model lines, even though they retail at $45K+? Should Acura be held to a higher standard? In your world, I suppose, though it seems to me that these are the brands that we should be comparing our cars to. As for Lexus, well it's pretty clear that you haven't spent a lot of time on their boards, or you would know that RX's suffer from rattling dashboards, transmission problems, stereo problems, etc., most of which are acknowledged by Lexus as issues that need to be addressed.
Again, I'm sorry that you've had so many problems with your MDX, but the truth of the matter is that your experience is hardly the norm, and I believe that most of the folks here would agree with me. And no, neither I nor anyone else here has anything at stake in terms of protecting the image or reputation of our Acuras -- in fact, it's quite the opposite. Considering that we're here in the first place, it stands to reason that we're going to the first ones decrying the flaws in our vehicles, looking to create a consensus that allows us to go to our dealerships informed.
Regards,
Adam
PS - And at no time did I dismiss your opinion or imply that you aren't entitled to express it; I simply presented mine, which you took offense to. If you want to dish it -- which you have -- then be prepared to take it in kind.
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| craniotes |
How many people compare the MDX with the Touareg and LR3? Well, me for one. Oh, and Car & Driver, when the MDX beat the LR3 and Touareg (and Lexus GX, and Volvo XC90, and Benz ML, and BMW X5...) in their latest comparison test.
And I'm sorry if the rolling eyes stuck in your craw. I guess I just overreacted to your entirely unsubstantiated and subjective comment regarding the "ton" of unhappy Acura customers languishing in the American hinterland, and how Acura is quaking in their boots at the prospect of having to buy back their defective MDXs.
"Wrongly accused"? Why the quotes, counselor? Are you quoting me, or do you simply like quotations? But yes, I do feel that you are a sensitive flower.
Regards,
Adam
PS - If you really must have the last word here, PM me, or start a new thread. I think this one has run its course.
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| caligirl |
| I appreciate your input. |
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| MotoLinz |
Spankin' new here, but for the record, I'm currently on the hunt and have compared the MDX to the LR3, Touareg, XC90, ML, and X5.
The LR3 is a piece - the inside was so cheap that I didn't even give it a test drive. Additionally, the AH has had two Range Rovers, and they were both junkers. The Touareg is also a piece (sad, because other than reliability, it's about perfect). I felt the XC90 was too light on the steering, and lingering transmission failures scared me off. The ML just wasn't my cup 'o tea. And, the X5, however lovely and fun to drive, presents a bit more owner cost and risk than I think I'm willing to jump into.
My choice isn't yet settled, and I still admittedly covet the X5 despite some things, but I drove the '08 MDX today and was notably more impressed than I expected to be. Having driven a Honda for nearly a decade, I'm a bit tired of the "jack of all trades, master of none" dullness of Japanese autos. But, for me, the MDX takes it in terms of reliability, by a mile. There's a bad one in every bunch, but there's no question that Honda and Acura have a great track record. To me, the MDX is a put-gas-in-it-and-change-the-oil SUV. Sounds good to me, even if it isn't The Ultimate Driving Machine.
Comparing it to pricier marques, the MDX still seems to be coming out on top...
Your mileage may vary, of course. :) |
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| BillHeart |
Every manufacturer is going to have some lemons, even Acura, Lexus, etc. I remember once seeing a 6-month old Rolls-Royce with a failed engine.
So it happens. That being said, we very rarely see troublesome Acuras, in fact, hardly ever and I work at an Acura dealership. Still, I am sure it can happen, they make tens of thousands of them and one or two bad one surely will be built.
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| kingmdx |
Just to add to this :p .... do note that most (not all) people on these kinda sites who post are complaining/looking for a solution to a problem...i am sure there is A LOT of people on here who just read etc and don't post and their vehicles are fine.
I do some posting for small things but my X is still running good (knock on wood).. has it been totally trouble free ..no ...has it shut down on me and left me stranded...no ...some people say you won't expect that to happen to a 45k vehicle anyway ...so it's doing as it supposed to i guess.
But to put things into persepective there are GL450s (65k plus) that shut off while driving and go dead... I guess we should DEFINITELY not expect that from them either ....but things happen to all lines of vehicles no matter the price... a bad build is a just what it is a bad build... sometimes something is overlooked in testing etc. it happens more often than you may know or think ...as an engineer you get to realise this can't be avoided 100% of the time and you move on...hence the reason for a factory warranty period...i.e. to catch the crap that is missed in production... now in the case of caligirl that seems to be a higher than usual amount of defects all at once hence I don't blame you for looking at the lemon law ..that's what it is there for anyway.
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| caligirl |
| Thanks for your support. |
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| Billr |
quote:
Originally posted by caligirl
I just wanted to add that we owned a 2005 MDX prior to this one that never had a single mechanical issue. Also, I am not bitter at Acura because my '07 MDX is crap. ;) It happens, I get that. I love this new X and we wouldn't mind getting a replacement one vs. a buy back and walk away scenario. Honestly, when we look at our other options out there we cringe.
Thanks for your support.
Have you specifically asked them to speak with the district manager and to swap out your X? I had a similar issue with a Ford a number of years ago. I spoke with the district manager with very specific details regarding all the trouble and they decided to perform a "Goodwill buy back".
I got the full list value toward any other Ford vehicle with no mileage deduct, low APR financing and a swapped extended warranty. Good luck.
I too have an 05 X that I'm thinking of getting another (I'm not sure yet). |
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| hipcheck |
Agreed with the previous post. If you have problems, the district manager and arbitration process is where to go, not the Internet.
The Internet always has been highlighted by the folks having problems, it's the nature of the beast. Very few people take the time to share positive experiences.
My 2007 MDX now has 18K on it with zero problems. By far the best quality vehicle I've ever owned (this is my 25th new car and my wife has owned around 15 new cars).
I owned 3 BMW X5s, each had unique issues and always had electrical hickups (still like them). I had a Lexus GX that has nothing but trouble with it -- I was really surprised by that. Of all the brands I've owned, Honda/Acura has been the most reliable so far.
Does that mean Honda is the best brand? Nope. Just means my experiences have been good with them so far. |
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| gmc74 |
quote:
Originally posted by ExRiGuy
I agree that Lambda's aren't perfect, but never said they were (but mine has been totally trouble free after 11k miles) -- but in the main I do not see anywhere near the compliants in those forums as here and just about as many are sold each month of just the Buick.
My X, purchased on 7/7/07 just like caligirls, has be issue free for 10,750 miles, explain to me what this proves?
No matter what you buy, a car, a TV, a computer hard drive, every product has a small percentage of "lemons". I personally saw a lot more with my 2004 Maxima (which like the 07 MDX, was a redesign year) on the maxima.org forums.
There are good ones, there are bad ones. Let's all step back and plant our feet in reality for a moment. If they were all bad, or mostly bad this place would be going crazy. And we would be reading about it all over the internet, in places other than message boards.
Caligirl got the misfortune of buying one of the few that has major issues, and that sucks. But I think we all know that Honda/Acura doesn't build crappy cars. |
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