| dexterbot |
Just wondering if I just washed my car last week and I see some bugs on my bumper and hood and minor droppings, what's the best way to remove and not scratch the paint without having to wash the car again and go thru the whole Z process?
Not sure if this was covered by anyone. I looked at the Zaino thread and someone had mentioned to just use Z6 quick detailing. What do you typically do?
Thanks in advance. |
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| G. COLTON |
Cannot see anything dificult in this. Simply get a bucket, a sponge a hose and your favorite car wash.
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| LionSpeed |
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Originally posted by G. COLTON
Cannot see anything dificult in this. Simply get a bucket, a sponge a hose and your favorite car wash.
G
+1
May I add, for tougher mofo, soak it with warm water & off it goes. ;) |
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| dexterbot |
Thanks for the quick responses but I was just wondering if it's safe to actually use a Z6 quick detail and clean that off on the spot as opposed to have to wait until the weekend to do a full carwash?
Any experience with quick detailing? Or is it just wrong because it will increase swirl marks?
I read from somewhere that QD tends to cause a lot of the swirl marks.
Especially with the water shortage in California, I can't exactly wash my car every time a bug or dropping gets on my car. |
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| hammermdx |
| I've used Z6 to remove bird poop...I actually keep a bottle in my trunk and get to it as soon as I can so the poop doesn't etch the paint. |
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| jhue |
I wouldn't attempt to clean bird droppings off with a low-lubricity quick detailer (Z-6). I wouldn't even try it with a high lubricity quick detailer (PoorBoy's S&W or diluted Optimum No-Rinse) unless I had no other choice. Birds eat small stones to aid them in digesting food, and this winds up in their droppings, and if you wipe that all over your car, guess what happens?
In a pinch I might try diluted ONR as an instant detailer, just to prevent the droppings from etching the paint (depending on diet, bird droppings can be highly acidic, and etch your clearcoat in a day or two), but I think at a minimum you want to break out the rinseless wash and soak the droppings so they slide right off w/o rubbing, or just get out the hose and bucket.
Only the truly clueless would clean bird droppings with a low-lubricity instant detailer. You might as well just rub some pebbles on your paint. |
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| dexterbot |
@jhue - thanks, that's the answer I was looking for. I did read from someplace that it would indeed scratch if you QD bird dropping. I think it's the small seeds and such as you mentioned. Makes sense.
But... I'm guessing it would be safe to Z6 bugs splats then. :) |
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| jhue |
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Originally posted by dexterbot
Any experience with quick detailing? Or is it just wrong because it will increase swirl marks?
I read from somewhere that QD tends to cause a lot of the swirl marks.
Especially with the water shortage in California, I can't exactly wash my car every time a bug or dropping gets on my car.
Instant detailers exist on a continuum of lubricity vs. gloss enhancement/protection, with products like PoorBoy's S&W and Optimun No-Rinse at one end, offering high lubricity and the ability to encapsulate dirt, but little to no gloss enhancement or protection, and products like Zaino Z-8 at the other, offering lots of gloss enhancement, but requiring a clean surface for application.
Basically, the dirtier the car, the more lubricity you need in the quick detailer to prevent scratching the clearcoat. You can wash a dirty car with PoorBoy's S&W, but you'd swirl the paint if you tried that with either of Zaino's spray detailers (Z-8 isn't even advertised as a spray detailer). You need to select the right product for the application.
If you're under water restriction, you should check into rinseless washes, like Optimun No Rinse. You still use a bucket of water, but you don't need a hose for initial wetting or final rinsing, and they can handle even dirtier cars than the highest lubricity waterless washes. At least half the time I do a rinseless wash rather than a regular wash just because it's faster and I don't need to move the car out of the garage to do it. |
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| jhue |
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Originally posted by dexterbot
But... I'm guessing it would be safe to Z6 bugs splats then. :)
Personally, I only use Z-6 for gloss enhancement on clean surfaces. It really doesn't make a good instant detailer due to its low lubricity. Since I keep Optimiun No Rinse around for rinseless washes, I also keep two spray bottles with diluted ONR around. One is diluted to instant detailer strength (1.5oz per 32oz water) and one is diluted to clay bar lubricant strength (0.5oz per 32oz water). |
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| dexterbot |
| wow.. thanks for the info. I may just have to go with the diluted ONR as you suggested. |
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| HuMan321 |
What kind of suggestions does anyone have about when you are traveling? You are not likely to carry a bucket around.
I am liking the spray bottle ideas and a clean rag. Maybe soaking the rag and laying it on the bug/bird issues to soften.
Any other idea?
Thanks |
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| csmeance |
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Originally posted by HuMan321
What kind of suggestions does anyone have about when you are traveling? You are not likely to carry a bucket around.
I am liking the spray bottle ideas and a clean rag. Maybe soaking the rag and laying it on the bug/bird issues to soften.
Any other idea?
Thanks
The best solution is to mix some carwash soap, I use z-7, and water to the proper preporitons and keep them with you in a spray bottle. Then at a gas station, spray the area and let it saturate while you fill up. When you are done, spray a liberal amount and wipe while spraying. |
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