| knepster |
Who designed the locking and opening features on this?
Was in shopping center yesterday and wanted to drop some stuff off at the car before continuing more shopping.
I have PTG option and pressed the keyfob to open the trunk, no go.
I found out you need to unlock the driver and passenger doors with two presed of the fob, then press the trunk, then close the trunk with a press and then arm the whole car again.
Would it not be intuitive to have coded it to open the trunk and close the trunk without having to open and lock the car. Duh!!!!!!!!!
What a PITA. And another way the wife will forget to probablty lock the car after she opens and closes the tailgate. |
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| Tim Ernst |
Yup, I agree - a stupid mistake that they have not corrected in the 09 models. I guess it is OK for folks who don't know any better and are happy to have the door work some of the time, but for other folks who are used to this working the correct way (as a stand alone) it is a real pain. I am coming from an Outlook that would operate independently, and also had a button on the center of the dash where either driver or passenger could get to it instead of it being hidden in the door like on the MDX. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess...
It is also a pain in the butt that the door will not open automatically by simply pressing the button on the hatch (if the car is unlocked) - this is the way it works on the Outlook and is much better. I often need to raise the hatch when the car is not locked and I don't have the remote with me - so much easier just to push the button on the hatch, but now I have to raise the stupid thing by hand and I'm having to retrain myself to do this - I'm getting lazy in my old age and appreciate things like this! Why have an automatic door if it won't work? (Now that I think about it, is there a way to program the car so that it does open by pushing the button on the hatch?)
On the other hand, the MDX sure does handle a lot better than the Outlook - yippie! |
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| dj-mdx2 |
| What has the world come to when an extra button press is so difficult? Anybody watch Wall-E? |
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| knepster |
| Its just not intuitive. Ive had lexus, MB and Audis that all work with a click to open and close. |
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| Redwing |
Since the PTG is an add on, I suspect the lock is separate from the lift. A fix could be to combine the lift TG with the unlock button so that when the TG button would be pressed, the doors would be unlocked and the lift would open.
Still, there would need to be a delay from when the lock unlocks and the lift motor engages. That's likely the reason for the separate button.
Again, it's likely that it's because it's an add on and not originally designed to be integrated with the lock/unlock mechanism of the TG. Remember that the TG unlocks with the other doors and never just by itself. |
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| adr5 |
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Originally posted by dj-mdx2
What has the world come to when an extra button press is so difficult? Anybody watch Wall-E?
That's not the point. The reason to get PTG is for convenience. Forcing so many button pushes for no reason makes it that much less convenient. Anyone who has had this feature on another car will quickly see the problem. My prior car also had PTG and it was a nice option to have. On the inside the button was in the overhead center console. On the remote it only required a single push. My MDX doesn't have PTG, and I do occasionally miss it. |
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| gamol |
quote:
Originally posted by knepster
Who designed the locking and opening features on this?
Was in shopping center yesterday and wanted to drop some stuff off at the car before continuing more shopping.
I have PTG option and pressed the keyfob to open the trunk, no go.
I found out you need to unlock the driver and passenger doors with two presed of the fob, then press the trunk, then close the trunk with a press and then arm the whole car again.
Would it not be intuitive to have coded it to open the trunk and close the trunk without having to open and lock the car. Duh!!!!!!!!!
What a PITA. And another way the wife will forget to probablty lock the car after she opens and closes the tailgate.
go to your dealer and they can re-program the PTG and keys for you without unlocking all the doors. Just tell them you want the PTG to work independently that's what i did. |
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| shootist |
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Originally posted by gamol
go to your dealer and they can re-program the PTG and keys for you without unlocking all the doors. Just tell them you want the PTG to work independently that's what i did.
It's so much easier to complain. |
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| knepster |
| gamol, what dealership did this for you. I called 2 in my area and they were clueless. |
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| G. COLTON |
quote:
Originally posted by dj-mdx2
What has the world come to when an extra button press is so difficult? Anybody watch Wall-E?
ditto
I have not yet figured out why anybody needs the power tail gate.
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| Redwing |
quote:
Originally posted by gamol
go to your dealer and they can re-program the PTG and keys for you without unlocking all the doors. Just tell them you want the PTG to work independently that's what i did.
Hmm, so you're saying you can just hit the PTB button on it opens? It does that with the locks locked? You say it works independently. That would mean that with doors locked, you hit the PTG button and it opens. True?
I guess I'm doubting that configuration, but if you got it, we'll be stopping in to the dealer.
And is this different than the personal settings that one uses?
TIA |
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| Redwing |
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Originally posted by G. COLTON
ditto
I have not yet figured out why anybody needs the power tail gate.
G
So you've never had your hands full and wanted the lift to open? That's when it is most useful. |
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| pbm317 |
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Originally posted by knepster
Its just not intuitive. Ive had lexus, MB and Audis that all work with a click to open and close.
On an SUV?
Because i'm certain our RX works exactly the same way as the MDX.. unlock doors first, then tailgate option. |
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| G. COLTON |
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Originally posted by Redwing
So you've never had your hands full and wanted the lift to open? That's when it is most useful.
I have had my hands full and had a hard time geting to me key in my pocket. How does the power help when I cannot get the key?
G |
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| Tim Ernst |
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Yes, works like it is supposed to on an Outlook, one press of the button and the door opens or closes, also if the doors are unlocked you can just touch the button on the hatch and it opens automatically, the way it should. My car is unlocked about 95% of the time and so the auto hatch simply does not work going up, only going down. And yes there are many times when it is so much easier to use a power lift - isn't that what we pay for? I would not have given you a dime for it myself until I actually used one, and now I can't live without it - in fact was one reason why I got an MDX since it had the feature - sad to find out it is crippled most of the time. Perhaps they will fix this in the 2010 version... |
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| Hodog16 |
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Originally posted by pbm317
On an SUV?
Because i'm certain our RX works exactly the same way as the MDX.. unlock doors first, then tailgate option.
Do cars even have a power trunk? Seems like some cars eject the trunk forcefully so it automatically opens, not sure I'd label it as "power" :D. |
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| knepster |
| yep my audi a8l has power open and close trunk as an option |
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| adr5 |
quote:
Originally posted by G. COLTON
I have had my hands full and had a hard time geting to me key in my pocket. How does the power help when I cannot get the key?
G
I found it most useful when unloading the car. I kept the key fob in my hand and then grabbed all the stuff I could. Then I could close the lift gate with the push of a button. Very handy. |
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| craniotes |
I have to say that I find the power tailgate useful in certain situations, though hardly indispensable. However, I do find the implementation of this feature to be somewhat irritating along the lines that prompted this thread. Clearly, if the car is at rest and locked, and I then hit the hatch button, the hatch should open. And since nine times out of ten, if I open the hatch, that means that I'm about to get in the car and actually drive off, why not unlock all the doors while you're at it?
Ultimately this isn't a huge deal -- oh no! I have to hit TWO buttons to open the hatch! -- but seeing as how other manufacturers approach this in the "correct" way, I wonder why Acura decided to take a different route. Same goes for the auto-close feature for the windows and sunroof -- on my Benz, you can close them with the key fob, but on the Acura you have to physically insert the key in the door and lock it twice and hold. Again, not a huge issue, but why do it this way?
Regards,
Adam |
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| gamol |
quote:
Originally posted by knepster
gamol, what dealership did this for you. I called 2 in my area and they were clueless.
mile high acura... |
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| gamol |
quote:
Originally posted by knepster
for an '08???
before I got my 08 MDX . I checked and test all the included accessories and options. after my test drive I asked the dealer why I need to unlock all doors before opening the lift gate? The dealer told me they will reprogram the keyfob. |
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| JayMar88 |
PTG is one of the most useful things I've ever had on a car minus power door locks.
It really isn't a big deal to have to unlock the doors to press the button. Would you rather have to unlock the doors then unlock the tailgate? |
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| Redwing |
quote:
Originally posted by G. COLTON
I have had my hands full and had a hard time geting to me key in my pocket. How does the power help when I cannot get the key?
G
Not trying to rag on you, but I would call it planning. Before one gets their hands full, they get the remote out.:) |
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| Evan215 |
gamol, I take it you are here in Colorado, correct? I bought mine from Courtesy Acura... great dealership all-around. Mile High Acura wouldn't even approach me, most likely because I look and am so young (I'm 23), so I went to another dealership. They are clueless at Mile High Acura and I wouldn't ever bring my MDX there. There is only one good thing I have to say about that dealership... Rebecca Mino is an excellent salesperson, unfortunately they don't haggle on their prices though.
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Originally posted by gamol
mile high acura...
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| highcountrymdx |
My daughter's Chrysler Town and Country will open and close just the power tailgate with the dedicated key fob button, without unlocking the rest of the van first. I've found it very convenient and useful. Kinda like an icemaker: don't really need it, but it sure is handy.
For those of us that find the convenience of one button opening the power tailgate petty, how would you feel if it took a series of pushes of various key fob buttons just to open the driver's door? Isn't it about the same sort of argument?
Convenience in any form is there just to make life a bit simpler, easier, and less frustrating. I don't think it's too much to ask that the power tailgate opens with a simple one button push of the key fob. |
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| G. COLTON |
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Originally posted by Redwing
Not trying to rag on you, but I would call it planning. Before one gets their hands full, they get the remote out.:)
Very true! I say the same thing to myself often.
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