| paul123 |
| After driving two nights they do go farther distance and much wider in range. The entire lower road lite up very good with a yellow hue to it, not to yellow like the QX-4. Much brighter when you look at directly , and looks white with slight hue of yellow from the front view. From behind the wheel it appears to be more yellowish look than when you look at it directly. Much brighter than the stock bulbs. Try the regular plasma if don't want the yellow color. I like the yellow to offset the Super plasma purple and my future hid stage II's.:D |
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| rflagg |
Paul123,
Do me a favor and call HIDS4Less in the morning. I would like to know if they really are planning to ship OUR Stage 2 kits on Friday. (I'm on the west coast, so you should know before me.)
From what they told me, they were waiting for Customs to release the bulbs.
Please post some good news!
Thanks!
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| Oracle |
| Isn't it suppose to be Philips or Hella ballast as they promised for the Stage2 kit? What kind of ballast is it? Looks like some kind of cheap brand..... |
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| young |
oracle, are you referring to the pic i posted?
that is a type 2 ballast (panasonic - matsu****a). i assume that you ordered a type 1 ballast (philips). so it looks different. like a larger version of the silver block. but in my opinion, panasonic is a very reliable brand (better than philips) so i wouldn't worry. they both come w/ the 5 year warranty... |
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| young |
this is what a type 1 ballast looks like - from hids4less website
and here's their pic of the type 2 (accurate representation)
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| young |
| good news! stage 2 type 1 kits are being shipped to people in the mbworld group buy! |
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| rflagg |
quote:
Originally posted by young
good news! stage 2 type 1 kits are being shipped to people in the mbworld group buy!
I just called them. They got stuff in Thurday & Friday. However, the 9006 bulbs won't be in until Monday. |
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| paul123 |
I'll try to contact them on monday to confirm, I'm getting a little anxious now.
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| Oracle |
| Just called and no, they said the Stage2 9006 is not even in yet... what's up with that??? :mad: |
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| dcmdx |
hey, didn't all of you on the gb already pay for your kits like a couple of weeks ago?
it sucks that some of you will be getting your credit card bills soon and have nothing to show for it.
the only reason i can think of why they would charge the cards before shipment is b/c they need your payments to pay for the components themselves.
i don't consider any merchant is worth dealing with if they can't simply charge when the product ships.
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| paul123 |
| I just spoke with them again at 4:00 pm today and they still have not received the 9006 bulbs yet. They should be in this week, I hope I don't get my credit card bill. If I do I will probably ask for deferred payment until I get the shipment or will ask hids4less to credit me and then rebill when they get the 9006 bulb in. :mad: |
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| Oracle |
| They claimed they will have them and ship them tomorrow... we'll see how "promising" they are... :mad: |
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| rflagg |
Well, at least they are consistent! They said the same thing to me too.
Al told me that UPS will be in at 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM tomorrow. I'll be phoning them shortly after 10:00. |
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| young |
well, ordering and waiting was, in the end, a pain in the... well, you know ;)
but, now that they are in, i'm happy :D would i buy from hids4less again? i don't know... if i don't ever need the warranty (and assuming the price was the same elsewhere), i would not...
but if you did order, you'll probably get the kits; just not on your time table nor the one that they told you... add a week or two ;)
also, people are indeed getting their kits now. |
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| barakutha |
| they told you guys tomorrow?... when I called around 5pm they told me wednesday... sigh... we'll see |
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| Oracle |
| Nope.. now they say within this week..... :mad: |
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| rflagg |
I just got off the phone with Mike. They will be shipping the 9006 stage 2 backorders today & tomorrow.
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| frankjv |
| rflagg can you advise me how to order, do we need a groub buy number. And when we call them what is the expected date for delivery for orders placed this week. I need 9006 stage 2. Thanks |
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| Oracle |
"Expected date".... umm.. doesn't mean you would get it even though they promised you with a date..... :(
sigh... |
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| barakutha |
| i got my tracking number from them... it was generated on the day I placed my order.... unfortunately nothing has changed since. If they don't send out these kits by friday, I'm half considering cancelling my order. |
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| kevinhuan |
I just came back from Taiwan and man, they have tons of selection for HID light kits. They also have the original Philips 4000k HID kit which I believed to be the stage 1 kit from HID4less. Other brand also have 6000k and 8600k HID kit. Prices ranging from $400.00 to $650.00 USD this lead me to think that pretty soon, lots of other supplier will get HID kits and start selling them at a discount?!? Also is it possible to have HID lights at 8600k?!? brighter than sunlight?!? Just wondering...
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| kevinhuan |
I just came back from Taiwan and man, they have tons of selection for HID light kits. They also have the original Philips 4000k HID kit which I believed to be the stage 1 kit from HID4less. Other brand also have 6000k and 8600k HID kit. Prices ranging from $400.00 to $650.00 USD this lead me to think that pretty soon, lots of other supplier will get HID kits and start selling them at a discount?!? Also is it possible to have HID lights at 8600k?!? brighter than sunlight?!? Just wondering...
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| Oracle |
Funny that there is no more complaint about the GP of the stage2 kit... like we all forget about it already..... :)
Oh well.... I'm giving up soon... |
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| barakutha |
| so they didnt send out this week.... when should we all give up?... any good alternatives? or a better question, any comperable alternatives? |
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| Fireblade6 |
I have completely neglected this posting due to the fact that I already have the stage II kit from HIDS4less.com aka MTC lighting.
RFLAGG had asked me to read and investigate this concern in regards to the way MTC lighting does its business.
First of all, I must apologize to all of you for going through such a nightmare in terms of waiting. When I ordered my stage II from HIDS4less, I hade to wait up to two and a half months. I did not expected to be that long. Then again..waiting for my MDX was much longer so being the patient individual that I am...it really did not bothered me until I read all the posts and posts from other forums of automobile owners.
It is obvious that HIDS4less needs to change the way they do business and change the way they need to communicate with their clients especially if they want to maintain their client base without attrition.
My conclusion is that they are disorganized and also not customer oriented when it comes to business dealings. And I BELIEVE the reason why this is the case is that HIDS4less is taking a product that is VERY NEW to the U.S. market and make it available to consumers who want them here. Keep in mind that when I first initially did my investigation on HID for my MDX I went to GREAT lengths on research before I made up my mind to purchase from MTC lighting. You see...HELLA is a German company. They make a VERY specific Xenon bulb that no one to date can make available to the U.S. market. I dont know how MTC are able to obtained them and have it here to the U.S. They must have contacts there in Germany at Hella because from what I know, this "stage II" Xenon bulbs is not available in U.S. cars. The HELLA 6400K bulbs are JUST released in the new 2003 Lamborghini Mucielago, the new 2003 Aston Martin Vanquish and the Ferrari 360 Modena and was available ONLY on Le Mans racing cars!!!
Now lets get back to the structure of business in terms of how HIDS4less buy these bulbs and convert them. If I have to make an assumption, HIDS4less have to paid in advance for these bulbs from HELLA, once it is verified that the bank transfer is made, then HELLA sends these bulbs to the U.S. but before it gets into the U.S. HIDS4less have to paid duty taxes, import taxes and fees to remove it from U.S. customs. From there HIDS4less then have to fabricate the bulbs to specifically fit the vehicle to the orders that they have received. KNowing about OEM productions and manufacturing this takes TIME. And from there they ship out their finished products to the consumer.
This will correlate as to why HIDS4less charged the consumer in advance. They need to have funds to be able to take count on the number of bulbs they need to buy. This is something that HIDS4less in MY OPINION HAVE to change. Doing this cause anxiety to the buyers and makes them think that HIDS4less is ripping the customer off.
Kyle and Mike or Jeff will not admit to what I have posted here...but in the years that I have done business as a small business owner...leveraging your money and dealing with certain manufacturers and vendors that are OVERSEA can be cumbersome if not frustrating due to the import/export laws and business practice that one company expect of the other. International import/export business fraud is HIGH and I can see why companies like HELLA and others want money upfront there inturn forcing the smaller business to charge their customer upfront. BUt the dealings between OEMs and manufacturers should not affect the consumer, we do NOT want to know how they negotiate terms, when we order something we want it and if we charge it on a credit card we want the product before the card is charge, common practice. This is NOT the case with HIDS4less. Am sure that the folks at HIDS4LESS will come through. I just think that HIDS4LESS aka MTC lighting should change the way they process orders for the consumers and also change the way they communicate the order expectation to the customer.
I have sent them my testimonials of how happy I am with the Stage II product and they have posted it on their web-site. I think Kyle owes me an explanation on the AcuraMDX.Org group buys. I plan to call him and Mike on Monday. |
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| paul123 |
like firebalde6 stated, that is probably the hold up. They told me last week to give it to next friday to receive. They said that they usually ship the group order all at once. I still haven't received my credit card bill so I didn't have to lay out anything, and if they don't come next week, we'll as hids4less to cancel the order until they can ship. I still believe they have a good product, but there customer service could be better. Right now there is a hugh demand on the 9006,9005 hid bulb. They are getting more demand than they could fill, just give them a little more time.
After all, most of us waited at least 2 months for the SUV! |
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| mcclendons |
Seeing the few messages directly above, I assume it means that they did NOT ship on Wed/Thur, and the revised "estimate" is next Friday? No one expressly stated, but it is implied...............
My only concern is that I have paid the bill, so would need to give Visa a notice of issue asap if things go bad. I do not have to have the lights RIGHT NOW, just wish I knew the whole story:confused:
I never knew that "HID" stood for "Hideous Delay" lights?????????????? |
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| young |
quote:
Originally posted by Fireblade6
Keep in mind that when I first initially did my investigation on HID for my MDX I went to GREAT lengths on research before I made up my mind to purchase from MTC lighting. You see...HELLA is a German company. They make a VERY specific Xenon bulb that no one to date can make available to the U.S. market. I dont know how MTC are able to obtained them and have it here to the U.S. They must have contacts there in Germany at Hella because from what I know, this "stage II" Xenon bulbs is not available in U.S. cars. The HELLA 6400K bulbs are JUST released in the new 2003 Lamborghini Mucielago, the new 2003 Aston Martin Vanquish and the Ferrari 360 Modena and was available ONLY on Le Mans racing cars!!!
do you have a reference for this? here's a set that's even cheaper - w/ a hella ballast (but it doesn't say hella bulbs) http://www.importfan.com/product.asp?3=1851 - $499!
my real question is, even if it is a hella (bulbs and ballasts) kit only available in a few high end cars, how is it better than the philips ultinon kits available from autolamps.com for $580 or the set above that's even cheaper?
btw, people in the mbworld group buy have received their kits and many have already installed them... one person said his bulb was yellow but then later, it was fine. for me, as i got stage 1, they're yellow until the full burn-in period of 20-100 hours... :( |
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| rflagg |
quote:
Originally posted by frankjv
rflagg can you advise me how to order, do we need a groub buy number. And when we call them what is the expected date for delivery for orders placed this week. I need 9006 stage 2. Thanks
frankjv,
Sorry for the delay. I was out skiing.
Concerning your question, read the first post of this thread. Also, I'll be calling them up on Monday to get a status on things. I'll post some more info on Monday.
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| Fireblade6 |
quote:
Originally posted by young
do you have a reference for this? here's a set that's even cheaper - w/ a hella ballast (but it doesn't say hella bulbs) http://www.importfan.com/product.asp?3=1851 - $499!
my real question is, even if it is a hella (bulbs and ballasts) kit only available in a few high end cars, how is it better than the philips ultinon kits available from autolamps.com for $580 or the set above that's even cheaper?
btw, people in the mbworld group buy have received their kits and many have already installed them... one person said his bulb was yellow but then later, it was fine. for me, as i got stage 1, they're yellow until the full burn-in period of 20-100 hours... :(
Like I said...Hella HID Xenon bulbs are hard to find in the U.S. You can get Hella Ballasts but for some reason I cant find the bulbs other than from MTC Lighting. ;) |
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| paul123 |
| Just spoke with kyle and they are still not in yet! Again, expecting this weeks a set of 500 bulbs and should ship this week. Oh well, I'll give them to friday to have the shipment come in. Then I'll have to re-think whether or not to start with another website for the headlights. I'll keep everyone up to date on my news.:mad: |
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| rflagg |
quote:
Originally posted by paul123
Just spoke with kyle and they are still not in yet! Again, expecting this weeks a set of 500 bulbs and should ship this week. Oh well, I'll give them to friday to have the shipment come in. Then I'll have to re-think whether or not to start with another website for the headlights. I'll keep everyone up to date on my news.:mad:
I called them up this morning to get my tracking number. (Remember, I spoke to them last Wednesday and they said the 9006 Stage 2 bulbs were in. I even had the guy confirm this!)
I too was shocked when Al told me the same thing this morning. They gave me the same line of bull XXXX. So, I asked for a refund. Al said they would send me a check.
I've had it with them. Now my only hope is that they mail me a check and that it does not bounce!
I'm sorry I ever heard of HIDS4Less. |
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| TheWorm |
Sorry you guys are having so much trouble with this...
What I find odd is that Kyle & Co are paying a bank/transaction fee of ~2% when they charge to your credit card, then refunding with a check. So, they lose ~2% on every canceled sale. Similar issue with some of the mbworld folks they credited a couple hundred bucks for sending the wrong kits. Why aren't they reversing the charges back to the credit cards :confused: |
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| rflagg |
Monday...
Mike/Al/Kyle: "HIDS"
Rflagg: "Hi. I'm just calling to see if the 9006 Stage 2 bulbs are in yet"
M/A/K: "Nope."
Rflagg:"Is this Al?"
M/A/K: "No."
(Notice that he does not tell me who I'm talking to!)
Rflagg:"Uh. When do you expect them in?"
M/A/K: "Should be in tomorrow. We will then send them right out to you. Probably the same day we get them in."
Tuesday....
(Same as Monday.)
And so on, and so on, and so on, and so on!..........
That is my complaint! They are lying to us!
HIDS4Less, in my opinion, knows darn well where the shipment is. They just are not leveling with us. Kyle told me a couple of weeks ago (I can't believe that I've been dealing with this issue for many WEEKS!) that Customs returned the shipment to the manufacturer. That means Customes does not want this particular part to goto HIDS4Less.
It's my bet that the manufacturer and HIDS4Less are trying to figure out a way to get the bulbs through Customs. And we are stuck in the middle. (Or in the end, to be more precise!)
I would not be so mad if they were honest about the situation. But saying that they will be in tomorrow over and over and over again is unacceptable.
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| vze23h3h |
rflagg! yare right.
I cancelled my previous order on March 14. So far, I didn't get my refund on credit card. Mike told me I would get it around 10 to 14 days. Nope!:mad: I still didn't get it yet. |
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| paul123 |
If you pay your credit card prior to receiving the product, you may have to wait for the company to reimburse you. Once you pay an item on your card, you cannot dispute the charge. By paying you are telling the credit card company that you are satisfied with the product. Then you can't go back and say you never received the product. The bank backing the credit card cannot go back to the merchant to fight. That's why I never will pay any item on a credit card until I receive and it's in satisfactory condition. If your bill should arrive prior to receiving the product, all you have to do is call the credit card company and they will note the account and hold back the funds until the products are received. Take it from a bank officer for 10 years. It's the best way to protect yourself and the credit card company. I'll still give them to the end of the week to come thru considering I still haven't received my new statement showing the charge. :(
P.S. - If you are awaiting a refund check, try to get the tracking number and exact day of shipment to assure that the check is comming. I've had a bad learning experience where the company said they would send the check, but it never went out. Then I have to start legal proceedings, what a nightmare! |
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| rflagg |
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Originally posted by vze23h3h
rflagg! yare right.
I cancelled my previous order on March 14. So far, I didn't get my refund on credit card. Mike told me I would get it around 10 to 14 days. Nope!:mad: I still didn't get it yet.
This is a nightmare. First they are quick to charge your credit card. Next, they fail to send you the product. And if you want your money back, they give you the runaround! |
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| Fireblade6 |
Call your bank. dispute the charges. you are not responsible for paying for something where products and services are never received.
You will get better results from this. |
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| dcmdx |
i cancelled my order immediately after discovering they had already charged without even having the kits in stock. this was a couple of days after i had ordered when the gb first started. i should state that they did process the credit on my card the day after i requested it. the fact that they are "sending" refund checks is very wierd. i wouldn't hold your breath on getting those. there's no reason why they can't simply process a credit on your card. this "company" is a joke.
blade, the lights look great but i love how you informed us that you had to wait 2.5 months for your kit after everyone already ordered. it almost sounds as if you are affiliated with hids4less. people, waiting for these kits and waiting for the x is in no way the same thing! are we that desperate! c'mon, we're talking about acura versus hids4less! we left a refundable deposit with a receipt for our x while hids4less immediately charges our cards and then gives us bs for weeks!
all this bs not only reflects the credibility of the "company" but it has to reflect the product as well. let's see how these kits hold up months/years down the road. from what i've read, these kits should have wiring harnesses with them. i don't recall hids4less providing them. as such, 15 minute installations are not legit. here's an excerpt on why you need harnesses: "What can happen if I feed power to HID systems from stock headlight wiring? Over time, connectors, multifunction switch, headlight switch and fuse holders can melt. These component are very timeconsuming to troubleshoot and parts easily reaches several hundered dollars." this was taken from http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/general-faq.htm. also, check out this forum http://www.lighting.philips.com/for...um_6/wwwall.htm and CNTL-F on "hids4less". you'll feel even more confident after reading the posts in there.
all i know is that until these lighting manufacturers like philips or hella come up with a "kit" themselves instead of this "homemade" crap, i'm willing to wait. good luck to those of you who have already paid the cc bill. i hope it works out... |
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| mystMDX |
I too put in my order for the 9006 stage II Group buy with hids4less.
My credit card was also immediately charged. The next day after the charge was posted to my account I called hids4less and spoke with the owner Mike Chaves. He had the charges reversed for me. I had been in touch with him a few more times and he sounded very apologetic for the delays.
I informed him of all the negative feedback that his company was receiving
and I requested that he cancel my order completely.
I then called hidkits and initially spoke with William and then called back with more questions and spoke with Mark. Both of these fellows were most patient and corteous. I learned how their ballasts only drew 10 amps during the warm up period of bulb where other OEM ballasts can draw more amps. etc.
Based on posts by Steve Mitchell on this site I felt confident ordering from this company. They informed me that it will ship out today.
Good luck to the rest of you HID converters. |
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| rflagg |
quote:
Originally posted by mystMDX
I too put in my order for the 9006 stage II Group buy with hids4less.
My credit card was also immediately charged. The next day after the charge was posted to my account I called hids4less and spoke with the owner Mike Chaves. He had the charges reversed for me. I had been in touch with him a few more times and he sounded very apologetic for the delays.
I informed him of all the negative feedback that his company was receiving
and I requested that he cancel my order completely.
I then called hidkits and initially spoke with William and then called back with more questions and spoke with Mark. Both of these fellows were most patient and corteous. I learned how their ballasts only drew 10 amps during the warm up period of bulb where other OEM ballasts can draw more amps. etc.
Based on posts by Steve Mitchell on this site I felt confident ordering from this company. They informed me that it will ship out today.
Good luck to the rest of you HID converters.
Thanks for the post. I just got off the phone with Mike Chaves. He is going to try to either charge it back to my CC or send me a check. (He said something about switching CC services. I don't buy his BS about that. I'll have to wait a little longer.)
I also spoke to Mike Lee at HIDKITS and he said that they will be getting in the higher Kelvin bulbs in a couple of months. I really want those baby blues! So, I'm going to wait.
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| mystMDX |
quote:
Originally posted by rflagg
I also spoke to Mike Lee at HIDKITS and he said that they will be getting in the higher Kelvin bulbs in a couple of months. I really want those baby blues! So, I'm going to wait.
rflagg
I believe there is a trade off when going to the higher Kelvin bulbs. Yes the color is more blue, however there is a reduction in lumens/light output.
A standard 41000 Kelvin HID bulb produces 3200 lumens/light output.
a higher 5400 Kelvin HID bulb produces only 2600 lumens/light output
halogen bulbs produce between 700 to 1,000 lumens/light output.
see:
http://www.sylvania.com/xenarc/prodinfo.htm
This is what Mike at hidkits explained to me. Which is why I purchased the standard 4100 Kelvin HIDs |
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| young |
i'm sorry hids4less didn't work out for many people... i think they're customer service sucks....
like i probably said, next time, i'd probably just get the philips ultinon kit from elsewhere... or go w/ hidkits as people seem to be having better luck w/ them.
anyway, my comment about going too blue is that when in inclement weather, the blueish light makes things harder to see. just something to think about before getting anything like in the 8000 range or something. |
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| mcclendons |
Young,
"lack of" Service aside, how do you like you HIDS?
I've already been charged, and am still waiting it out......Was promised mine will ship this week.
Am sure this is true....great luck this week as I also won several sweepstakes prizes through the mail. |
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| Fireblade6 |
To Whom It May Concern-
This post is the follow up to a prior VERY LONG post in regards to HIDS4less.com.
I spoke to Kyle Lincourt at MTC Lighting today; the parent company of HIDS4Less.com.
Details as to what has happened to all of your orders:
The folks in Germany that shipped the bulbs to MTC Lighting under estimate the weight of the shipment so U.S. Customs held it until the sender and receiver of the imported product makes a declaration.(I was aware of this because it happened to me with my business.) Because of security today, U.S. Customs had put stricter shipping requirements and guidelines on all international shipments. MTC Lighting will be finishing up the declaration paperwork, they will have the bulbs in their possession on Monday and ALL orders will be received to all of you how still have an order with them by the end of next week no later than Friday. BTW- I did check with the local U.S. Customs and they have also confirmed why certain international shipments if not meet the new guidelines will be held up due to 09/11.
Details as to why HIDS4LESS.com charge cards before shipping:
That is how they been doing business. Kyle Lincourt will be changing this policy. I have given him the legal ramifications on this. He "understands." That will change.
Anyone else want to verify this can do so. Otherwise, I promised I will follow up on behalf of the group and I have done my share.
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| vp16 |
| Thank you very much for your investigative work and careful explaination of whats happening to our HID4LESS order. I don't think these guys are crooks, but rather very poor business management. I guess is another week of waiting. Thanks again. |
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| Rodzir |
| I spoke with Kyle yesterday and he explaned the same to me. I asked him when they would go out and he said they would be out the door by Tuesday. I also explained that if he did not ship and it is not on it way I would cancel the order and have the credit card company deny the charges. |
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| Warzau |
Here is my 2 cents,I was going to get in on the GB when it first started, then all the negative info began pouring in. Then with the CC and delayed shipment.
What I don't understand is why they NEVER said what Fire said to the to the users who did call and why did Fire have to tell us as a whole. Why didnt one of the owners,mnagers,etc come here register and post it here. Personal this is very poor handling of the situation. Are they going to give you some discount, or other to deal with all the problems of charging you delayed shipping,etc.
Anyway looks like I'll be looking elsewhere for a HID Upgrade. |
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| paul123 |
| Anyone speak to them on friday to see the status, I'm scared to ask? Hopefully good news next week!!! |
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| paul123 |
| I didn't get a chance to call today. any updates? |
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| mcclendons |
| Just ran a search on my UPS number (16 Apr), and it shows my stage II in transit. It left the MA UPS depot at 615 this AM. Sounds like they are shipping........................................ |
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| barakutha |
sweet i layed low for a while and just checked my tracking number also... OUT FOR DELIVERY.. woo hooo
cant wait cant wait cant wait |
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| rflagg |
I got my refund check from HIDS4Less today! :D
I'm running straight to the bank with it. I want to cash it before they go bankrupt!
I hope that everyone who orders their kits from HIDS4Less has a happy ending. I just had enough of their lies. I'm no longer going to start up a group buy with that company. (I'm going to edit my first post.)
About two weeks ago I started doing more research into HID lights. I found Sylvanias WEB site that basically say that Stage 2 lights are 1/3 dimmer than Stage 1's.
I then contacted Eric at Supreme Power Parts his company sells all Phillips 4200K and 6000K HID bulbs and Phillips 35W ballast. Eric also told me that the 6000K bulbs are 1/3 as bright as the 4200Ks. (Their supplier is working on a solution to get more light output out of the 6000k bulbs.)
So, I'm going to start up a new group buy for Stage 1 HIDs from Supreme Power Parts. (I'll create a new post.)
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| rflagg |
I am no longer going to start up HID4Less's group buy.
I've started up a new group buy thread at Supreme Power Parts.
I don't want to deal with a company (HIDS4Less) that is not honest to their customers.
This thread is now only used for other purposes.
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| Fireblade6 |
To those of you who were patient enough with HIDs4LESS. Am sure you will happy with the lighting system. Like I said in my VERY long post and also my updated investigation with Kyle Lincourt at MTC Lighting.
I just dont think that they lied, the are just really bad with customer service and communicating with the consumers respectively. MTC is going to change the way they do business. Am sure if they are lying and that they are EVIL business doers...am Sure they would of close ther shop and taken all of our money by now.
Obviously that Rflagg is very angry at this situation and I dont blame him. But he has received the refund check from them. With what has going on with how to do international business today with especially the types of products and bulbs that we are looking for...Things do happen.
I think Kyle Lincourt kept his words, he did say that the bulbs came out of U.S. Customs on Monday and products ship no later than Friday. It is DONE!! Thank God! Keep me POSTED all of you who have the stage II and tell me how you like it the next time you pull up next to an X-5, A4 or any european car with HID.:D |
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| Fireblade6 |
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Originally posted by paul123
Well the finally arrived this mourning. I'll post later with some pic's once installed.:D
Paul let me now how your installation went. when you install it. Leave one Halogen 9006 on turn on the light and compare it. It will FREAK you out as to how much of a difference it makes.
Anyway. Post some pics.;) |
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| Rodzir |
| Mine also shipped and are due to arrive today. I need to put my coolers for the towing pack on so I will make it a day job this weekend. I will take pics and post for all or you. I cant remember where I read it. Do the lights need to be adjusted a little up after the install?? |
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| paul123 |
| I just opened the package and was surprized to see a HELA ballast instead of phillips. I'm not sure the benefits of one or the other. Does anyone which is better or worst. It looks as if the plug may have to modified to use the pin connectors to give additional room to mount the ballast. |
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| paul123 |
| I'll post some pic's of the light itself once completed. |
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| mcclendons |
Paul,
Got mine today, and wondered on the harness. Put one side in, and the wires are just long enough to mount on the flat frame under each light. The passenger side mount is not quite level, so a little flex in the velcra mount. I used zip ties to keep the wires/harness from contacting anything that could get warm. Did use the extra "adapter" wire to make it work.
Mine are also Hella ballasts. Hella has been making high quality German lighting products for many years. Not sure it is better than Phillips, but certainly doubt it to be worse.
The color of the Stage IIs is certainly differnt. Much more blue. The "warm up" also seems a little strange at first. First impression is that they are much brighter. When first powered on, you see the clear white (yellow???) of the one stock light. Within seconds, it changes over to purple/blue from the one new bulb. Will install second bulb Thursday, but wanted to see side by side.
Fireblade, on the aiming, did you follow the HID4LESS instructions? Also, did you find the lights were aimed "low" following the install of the HIDs bulbs before aiming? (Important in case I need to drive before I get a chance to aim them........would hate for them to be "high")
Overall impression so far.....looks like I got what I paid for:D |
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| young |
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Originally posted by paul123
I just opened the package and was surprized to see a HELA ballast instead of phillips. I'm not sure the benefits of one or the other. Does anyone which is better or worst. It looks as if the plug may have to modified to use the pin connectors to give additional room to mount the ballast.
actually, their website shows a philips ballast but reading fireblades comments convinced me that they are hella bulbs (i thought they were philips bulbs as in the ultinon kits). i got the type 2 ballast and that's better than philips and hella! :D (just kidding, i have no idea - as long as they work/last 5 years, i'm happy)
as for aiming, i just aimed my other car (which has oem hids) and just sort of eye-balled it to make them similar. i then had my wife park in front of me in her car and i turned it on to see if i was blinding her... both head on and from behind.
also, those insulator sleeves (bluish ceramic bars - stage 2) are kinda fragile but don't worry if they break or crack. has no effect on the bulb according to hids4less and autolamps.com. |
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| paul123 |
I am very pleased with the bulbs very bright and love the color. Much brighter than the stock halogen. Even know I believe you loose some light with the stage II blue/purple color temp., they are still much brighter than the original.
I do have to re-adjust the headlighs, the beams are too low now with the HID system.
Any pointer on adjusting the headlights, I saw a recent thread on adjusting headlights but can't find it. I believe worm posted it. |
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| paul123 |
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Super plasma Piaa with HID |
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| paul123 |
| Lights up ground in detail |
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| paul123 |
There is an 8 mm bolt right under the hood in the center of high and low beam. About 5 turns clockwise lifted them to the right amount. Make sure not to go to high as you will blind on-comming traffic. I am amazed at how much just the HID light up without the fogs. The Piaa Ion Yellow low everything close at a wider angle than the HID. The HID go much further and wider than the halogen bulb. I'm glad the color of blue/purple is not too strong. Lite hue as to not take that much away from the strength of the lite. Very impressed, already people taking a second look as to what type of SUV has this kind of lighting. :D
It's a must to adjust, the beams are too low when you initially do the install. |
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| Fireblade6 |
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Originally posted by paul123
There is an 8 mm bolt right under the hood in the center of high and low beam. About 5 turns clockwise lifted them to the right amount. Make sure not to go to high as you will blind on-comming traffic. I am amazed at how much just the HID light up without the fogs. The Piaa Ion Yellow low everything close at a wider angle than the HID. The HID go much further and wider than the halogen bulb. I'm glad the color of blue/purple is not too strong. Lite hue as to not take that much away from the strength of the lite. Very impressed, already people taking a second look as to what type of SUV has this kind of lighting. :D
It's a must to adjust, the beams are too low when you initially do the install.
So Paul...WHAT DO YOU THINK??? Am I right or what about the lighting system? Are you happy? does it make you smile when you drive in pitch dark? What astounds me about the light bulbs is that at night it makes thing look in 3-D just like during the day as 0ppose to halogen...
If you notice...comparing with your PIAA highs...even the PIAA highs look YELLOW compare to the stage II!:D |
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| Fireblade6 |
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Originally posted by mcclendons
Paul,
Fireblade, on the aiming, did you follow the HID4LESS instructions? Also, did you find the lights were aimed "low" following the install of the HIDs bulbs before aiming? (Important in case I need to drive before I get a chance to aim them........would hate for them to be "high")
Overall impression so far.....looks like I got what I paid for:D
Actually...I did used the HIDS4LESS aiming instructions. I used the Acura light aiming instructions instead. They both are pretty much the same but Acura was put in more LAMENDS term so it was easy for me to follow...HAHAHA. the HIDS4LESS was TOO detailed. I guess they are the lighting people. |
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| Fireblade6 |
PAUL-
BTW.....NICE BERBER carpet dude. hehehehehe |
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| paul123 |
I am very happy. The fog are actually a yellow hue not the stock halogen. They are Piaa Ion yellow 2500k. Fireblade6 did you use the adapter and use the pin push in connectors. I don't like the way they connect and there is not enough room to reach the stock 9006 plug to the ballast. I'm debating on whether or not to cut off the 9006 plug and just splice the wires together? I'm trying to see if they sell a harness that will go from the ballast to the 9006 plug.
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| chipw |
Paul,
I can see you are very happy with your HID kit. That is very encouraging. I will probably be ordering mine pretty soon. Just a couple of questions on your installation.
Did you get a chance to compare your light pattern with any OEM HID's?
Are there any hot spots of your light? The OEM ones seem to cast a fairly uniformed light on the ground with no obvious hot spots.
Can you post some pictures to show how the lights look like at night when viewed from behind the steering wheel?
Thanks for your pictures! |
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