| bapisz |
hello everyone,
OK, I didn't order NAV and I wish I had!!!
I do love my non-NAV touring, but now that I've read up on
all the cool stuff the NAV unit does, I want one badly.
I've seen alot of posts referencing the Garmin StreetPilotIII
as a capable alternative.
Can anyone with experience with this devise post their opinions?
Thank you in advance. |
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| mcclendons |
The SP III is a great unit, but it is in a different class than the Acura/Alpine. Pros: Mobile, lower cost, easy to retrofit. works well
Cons, and i do not mean to sound negative: Slow calculation time, small screen, GPS only (so must have clear path to GPS SATs or you lose tracking), Limited map storage (small regions vice Alpine DVD), Get only 1 region with purchase--must buy additional regions, longer startup time.
Above said, I love mine. Use it on my motorcycle and wife's Miata. It's just that it does not compare with the Acura's unit---in cost or function. Would hate for you to be disapointed. If looking for Acura like performance, go Alpine or Kenwood aftermarket (couple of others as well). If you are looking for occasional mapping and route tracking, SP III is great. If you are looking for specific issues, let me know and I can give comparisons |
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| JAMESHALM |
| I put a Streetpilot III in my new X. Had Honda's Nav system in my Odyessy. Streetpilot is a much better system. When you purchase don't buy the unlock codes, instead buy Mapsource MetroGuide CDs.(you'll save money.) No unlock codes needed, and much better coverage down to streetlevel on even the smallest towns. Installed it in place of the coin holder and 12 volt outlet, nice fit. Buying the 128 meg memory chip is a little pricey but well worth it. GPSCITY.COM seems to have pretty good pricing. If you need more info let me know. |
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| Sandman |
Garmin is a great option if you want to take your GPS with you. I use mine in all of my vehicles and when I rent a car on business. I just download the current map from my MapSource CD for high detail map in the area where I am. The stock mapping system isn't bad either with exit information off of major highways like restrooms(important for kids and wives),restaurants,gas stations,etc. I also can plan a route on my laptop and download it to the Garmin in the comfort of my home/hotel/plane ride(I really couldn't see myself going into my garage in the winter and plugging in my planned route.)
Another great feature is that I bring my Garmin with me when I go Mountainbiking so I can easily just ride in the 60 acres of State Forest without fear of getting lost, gotta love those Hansel and Gretle breadcrumbs...
I would suggest testdriving an MDX with Nav and maybe buying the Garmin(for test purchase and return it if not satisfied, but beware some places do charge restocking fees) and see which you like best and better suits your needs.
Thats my 2 cents with 3 cents change... |
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| rvehock |
| I think that the portability factor of the Garmin is its strong point. As GPS technology evolves units will get smaller and more efficient. Most people have more than one vehicle and the Garmin is perfect for moving between them. I also did not opt for the Nav because I did not feel that the extra 2K was worth it in the long run (especially resale). |
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| oceanMDX |
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When you purchase don't buy the unlock codes, instead buy Mapsource MetroGuide CDs.(you'll save money.) No unlock codes needed, and much better coverage down to streetlevel on even the smallest towns.
Thanks for your comments for I too am considering the StreetPilot III. Just how can I buy the Mapsource MetroGuide CDs without needing the unlock codes? |
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| ajlee7 |
| Anyone have opinions on Garmin GPS V? What are some of the main differences between the GPS V and SP III? |
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| JAMESHALM |
The Mapsource City Navigator CD comes with the Streetpilot III
when you purchase it. It requires unlock codes for the various regions. You get one unlock code with the purchase.
You can buy the Mapsource Metroguide USA from GPScity.com
for about $120.00. It has much more detail than the City Navigator, has auto routing, and mapping on the smallest of towns throughout the USA. It does not need unlock code to use. |
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| oceanMDX |
| Thanks again for your comments and information. How practical would it be to invest in a 128 MB data card when a 32 MD card is already provided with the StreetPilot III? Would the 128 MB card really be that much more useful? Also, how important is it to get the Garmin USB data card programmer? Are there any "must have" accessories that you would strongly recommend? Could you post a photo showing the unit mounted in your MDX? |
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| JAMESHALM |
The USB programmer comes with the Street Pilot III. It's needed as the serial port is very slow. As far as the 128mb card, is concerned, it depends on how much traveling you do. A 32 mb card will hold an area the size of Texas, the 128 mb can hold about 4X as much. I'm retired and travel the US quite a bit.
So I use the 128mb for my travels and the 32mb that came with the unit is programmed with my home state of Michigan.
The cards take about 10 seconds to swap. I'll get out my camera and take a picture tomorrow and try to figure out how to post it.
I did remove the coin holder and 12 volt accessory to mount the
SPIII on the swivel mount that comes with the unit. (three screws). nothing to it. |
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| mcclendons |
On the above comments on the 32 MB card, and holding area size of texas........
32 MB may be good enough depending on how much you travel (as was said), but also depends where you live. I tried the 32 MB when I first got mine, and looked at travels in/around DC, Baltimore etc. Big cities take alot of memory. Uou will get a 32 MB card with unit, suggest you pick a travel plan you might use and look at its size. You can get to 32 MB quickly on east coast.....but you can always but the 128 later |
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| oceanMDX |
Thanks for the comments guys. As I expect to be driving from Cabo San Lucas, Mexico to Nova Scotia and then over to British Columbia this summer, I guess I'll go for the 128 MB card.
:D |
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| Mjaime |
I found these GPS systems from Garmin at Gpscity.com with 6" and 10" inch. diagonal screen and would like to know if they are made for maritime purpose or if can be use in cars. They are compatible with the Map source of the StreetPilot III, but I never heard of anybody talking about these products.
http://www.garmin.com/whatsNew/newProducts.html |
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| JAMESHALM |
Attached are three pictures. The SPIII is mounted on a swivel base(comes with it) with double sided tape (also come with it.)
The unit can swivel and lock in position from the driver to passenger if needed. The 12 volt power comes from the accesssory 12 volt outlet removed. bought a female cigarette lighter outlet from radio shack. plugged combination power and speaker into it and tie wrapped it behind the unit.
The antenna is mounted on the dash with double sidded tape.
Remove the drivers side pillar trim and drop the wire down under the dash and run it to the unit. Hope this helps. |
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| JAMESHALM |
| Picture # 3 antenna |
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| oceanMDX |
| Thanks for posting the photos. It sure looks like you did a very nice job with the installation. :) |
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| Mjaime |
| I think that the screen size of the SP III is too small and I would like something much bigger and easy to read like the 2006 and 2010 that I found in the Garmin shop site. I'm going to call Garmin on monday to see if these are made for cars also. |
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| bapisz |
Jameshalm,
I was wondering if the SPIII fit under the coin tray area and
your great pics confirm this. I was curious, can the coin tray
and the 12v accessory port be removed in one whole unit as it appears from your pictures? I would go out to my X and look,
but my wife is out "shopping":(
Thanks for the great and informative posts everyone. |
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| oceanMDX |
| The coin tray comes out as one piece - like an ashtray does. The 12 volt recepticle must be removed separately. |
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| jpt1964 |
| I don't have any experience with the SP III but I've got the 295. It's the aviation version of the SP III. It's the same housing as the SP III. It's very handy to have in the plane and then take to the rental car. |
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| oceanMDX |
Please be warned that the price is dropping drastically on GPS navigation units. The Garmin StreetPilot III unit with accessories that I purchased 3 weeks ago (April 4th) for $1,209.05 is dropping to $779.95 – including more up to date maps than I was provided with - at GPSCity:
http://www.gpscity.com/products/gar...etpilotiii.html
The 128 MB data card that I paid $259.95 for, and the unlock codes for all of the data on the Mapsource City Navigator CD-ROM disc that cost me $189.95, will be included for “free” in the Garmin StreetPilot III deluxe package starting in early June. Once you purchase and use one of these units, you can’t return it or take advantage of any 30-day price guarantee. Simply put, I am stuck paying what I did!
The StreetPilot III is an excellent unit and I really enjoy it, but watch out buying a relatively new model GPS unit because the price will likely drop drastically over a short period of time. Considering just how good the StreetPilot III is, there is no way that the Acura unit is still worth $2,000 – at least in my opinion. With respect to relative value, I’m not sure that it’s (Acura’s GPS unit) worth more than $1,000! What do you think about this?
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| DaleB |
I don't know how good a Garmin is, but with Kenwood, Panasonic, and Pioneer after-market systems running $2500 -3500 I think the Acura system is still a good value for a factory install.
Certainly a better value than the Bose is for a stereo upgrade.
If Garmin put out a larger screen version for say $1200-1500 they could really have something. Of course to all these prices I mentioned you have to add installation (either your labor or a 3rd party). |
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| Sandman |
| At the last CES, Garmin said they are developing a GPS that appears as a HUD, who knows if we will see it anytime soon, but it would be eagerly welcomed, they said it may be introduced into the market by end of 2003 beginning of 2004. |
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| oceanMDX |
| The argument that it would be advantageous to have a larger screen on a mobile nav unit has been made previously on this thread. Now that I have the StreetPilot III, I have to strongly disagree because a larger unit would block one's view of the road. In my view, the best place to mount the nav unit is right on the dash. This is especially true if you want to move the unit from one vehicle to another frequently because it can be disconnected from its base mount and removed so easily. Surprisingly the screen is big enough on the StreetPilot III. The only case where it is good to have a larger screen is where Acura has mounted it. If you purchase an after-market unit, go with the smaller screen. If you mount the unit on the dash, there is so little labor that it's not even worth mentioning. :rolleyes: |
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| oceanMDX |
| Now that's very interesting. The HUD would likely be mounted right on the dash straight in front of you. I can see that this position would have a major advantage since you wouldn't have to take you're eyes off the road to see the information that it is displaying.:) |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by oceanMDX
In my view, the best place to mount the nav unit is right on the dash. This is especially true if you want to move the unit from one vehicle to another frequently because it can be disconnected from its base mount and removed so easily. Surprisingly the screen is big enough on the StreetPilot III. The only case where it is good to have a larger screen is where Acura has mounted it. If you purchase an after-market unit, go with the smaller screen.
Based on what you state that would mean the Garmin is fine as a stand-alone, and likely the best (and only?) in it's price class. I would maintain the Acura certainly among the best of the factory- installed units and certainly good competition for the larger after-market units which likely require some sort of customization to be practical and safe to use.
With regards to a HUD for navigation, I have some concerns. HUD was intended to provide fast information about speed, rpms, temp., etc. Not to provide a map extract that would require some degree of concentration to understand, compared to looking at a numeric display. Even though it's line of sight, studying a map would certainly present a distraction. I with hold further comment until we see what they have in mind. |
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| edepa |
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Originally posted by JAMESHALM
Picture # 3 antenna
Thanks for the photo's of the install. Is this antenna included with street pilot 3 or deluxe? or is it an add on? Seems you'd need to have the antenna up on/near the windshield to get a clear view of the sky. thanks for your input.:( |
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| MDXtrous |
How about this:
www.gnetcanada.com
Buy mapping software, and you're set, additionally the screen you get can be used for DVD, MP3, Wireless Internet, etc... |
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| edepa |
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Originally posted by edepa
Thanks for the photo's of the install. Is this antenna included with street pilot 3 or deluxe? or is it an add on? Seems you'd need to have the antenna up on/near the windshield to get a clear view of the sky. thanks for your input.:(
Well, I never did get an answer to that posting...but not getting a navi to begin with I have had some regrets :( since day one. I think I have put that to rest with the Streetpilot Deluxe which I just got for my toy box! :D I'm not sure if I'll install near the coin tray or on the dash, but my very preliminary use of the unit on the dash showed just how good it was. The screen size is fine too. The Deluxe comes with a 128 mb card, so besides the national base map, I was able to install detail maps covering my version of the northeast with no problem...from Boston to Albany, down to New york and new jersey and then down along 95 to and including washington. It would also hold all the detail for a trip covering from New York to Miami along route 95, dropping the new england stuff for this trip. By the way, my commuter train hit 79.4 mph according to the unit, something you'd never know with a factory installed navi! TOOT TOOT :2: |
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| xcel |
Hi OceanMDX:
___I just looked up a 2001 Touring at 25,000 miles w/ and w/out NAVI over at Kelly’s Blue Book. $38,900 w/ NAVI vs. $38,165 w/out the NAVI for used retail from a dealer. It looks like NAVI is not as attractive to the used car buyers given its $2,000 for the new owner and $735 for it used in just 1 year …
___And for something a bit OT in regards to KBB’s Used Retail pricing. Let’s just say they are a bit off the map. More like on another planet … According to their numbers, if you had purchased a Premium back in 2001, placed 25,000 miles on it, and traded it into the dealer, the dealer could sell it to someone else for almost original retail price! With a Touring, they would get almost $1,000 more than what you paid originally! I don’t quite believe that anyone would purchase a used-year old MDX with those kinds of miles on it for > MSRP given they could purchase a year newer vehicle for less with a small wait. I guess the old adage that there is a sucker born … is still at work.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net |
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| oceanMDX |
| I can only agree with your comments. In general, I think it's the options on a car that depreciate the fastest. |
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| torchny |
We too tried out the StreetPilot III on our round trip to Cape Cod and very impressed with it. The only drawback we noticed was the routing caculation time was a bit long, especially when it told us "Off route, re-caculating.....". :)
Personally I wouldn't want it to be bigger since portability is its nicest feature. Besides, if Garmin can put a faster chip to help with the caculation power, give out larger memory card to hold more data, it would be a killer.
It's a really nice gadget for less than $800. :29:
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