| cardingtr |
I thought somebody might be interested to see the pictures. Its in www.vtec.net site.
Could be the car to consider as we are planning to get one within 6 months.
What do you think of the rear styling? |
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| MDXtrous |
| Pretty blah and ugly. The back looks like a late 90s Buick Regal. The C-pillar is way too big, therefore the windows don't flow smoothly with the lines. |
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| charlieinnj |
| Thanks for sharing! I've been anxiously awaiting a chance to see what honda would come up with. But, sorry, but I find it positively boring. FWIW, I think the best looking sedan in that price range is, hands down, the Altima. |
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| wmquan |
Yes, the styling isn't too exciting. Then again, they probably want to go "Honda conservative" with it, to compete with the Camry. Similar to how conservative the new Pilot styling is.
The Altima was on my short list for a second vehicle, but the NHTSA side-impact crash test results turned me off. Too bad, as it has good styling and a lot of nice features. Hopefully the 2003 Accord will have some of the goodies you can get in the new Altima and Camry. |
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| accmdx |
I was hoping for something like the sketches in Motor Trend. The real thing looks to be quite a disappointment.
Sort of like when Motor Trend ran sketches of the TL prior to its intro and it looked wicked. Pretty blah seeing the real thing.
I wish Honda would get some excitement in their design dept. |
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| MrPrescott |
The front looks to Civic, the rear looks better; Saabish I think. They've gone high-sided like the new Camry, which I don't like.
All in all, a functionally nice conservative car. |
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| Mushman |
Was looking to replace my wifes Subaru Impreza early next year with '03 Accord since she is ready for a bigger car.
If this is the real thing - fahgettaboutit!!!
Altima is looking sweeter and sweeter each passing day. |
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| javagod |
| it is ugly as sin. Looks like a cheap Saturn :rolleyes: |
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| davemac |
looks like the Accord will remain another Ultra Practical, Bland on Styling model. Disappointing after hearing so much hype of how honda was to blatantly rip of the German sedan styling (particulary the A4). Earlier sketches looked HOT. Wonder if they will follow thru with the rumored Type S version.
Based on the volume of sales of this car, I'm sure the demographic studies are to blame. Unfortunate for the enthusiast, but great for the average driver. |
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| DaleB |
Considering the Accord is Honda's flagship sedan, I am disappointed. I would definitely be more interested in a Passat in that class.
Even the Civic made more progress for a compact.
I think the CRV could use a face lift and little more power too by now. A mini-MDX or Mini-Pilot is in order.
Come on, Honda! Can't you work more than one or two models at a time? |
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| wmquan |
| Wonder how aggressive looking the next-gen Acura TL will be (based on the new Accord)? Honda's got the really conservative looking Pilot out there, and now a pretty bland looking Accord. I'd hate to think that most of their styling risks will be taken with Acuras. |
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| MK23666 |
:3: The Euro design of the Honda Accord looks closer to the Motor Trend sketches. :( Honda obviously decided to go conservative in the US and IMHO made a small mis-step.
I think you can find the pictures of the Euro Accord on the same Temple of VTEC site. |
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| vicpai |
quote:
Originally posted by DaleB
I think the CRV could use a face lift and little more power too by now. A mini-MDX or Mini-Pilot is in order.
Come on, Honda! Can't you work more than one or two models at a time?
Hey Dale!
YOU COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!...........I've been saying this over and over again and nobody seems to get it :rolleyes: .......Honda makes really good vehicles.......they just don't know how to "BALANCE" their models.........Everything they make nowadays seems to be geared towards the "bigger-is-better" theme, while they simply IGNORE the rest of the market .........They've got an excellent platform in the CR-V to base a really nice "smaller" version of the MDX or Pilot and give it some decent level of luxury (at least in a "Limited" model) and some decent V6 power and smoothness/refinement.......but go figure they'll never do it :rolleyes: |
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| renov8r |
quote:
Originally posted by Rabbit
Here's some more spy shots for anyone interested...:cool:
http://www.autoweek.com/specials/ga...newaccord/1.htm
kinda looks like they borrowed something from the GS-400 for the the rear edge of the C-pillar. Maybe not as bland as the doubters have been saying... |
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| MDXLuvr |
I like the sedan, the coupe looks a little confused, especially with MB tail lights.
I think u guys a being a little to hard on Honda. Remember, Honda sells 375K,000 Accords to avg. middle class conservative people. Most of them don't want boy racer looks, or european styling. Don't want to pay for a high rpm VTEC with 6 spd. They want Honda reliability and refinement at a decent price.
*** I digress, My father-in-law bought a Accord EX, and kept saying to me, "why does it make that funny sound when the engine revs?" Apparently, he thought there was something wrong with the engine because the engine sound would change when he went in the vtec rpm range.***
Remember, the altima might be nice, might have 240HP, but Honda will sell 2-3 times as many Accords. Also, the Accord is the only family sedan to make it on the C&D 10 best list every year since its induction( i think its 18 years).
I just wish honda would focus more on cars, and motorcycles, instead of spreading their R & D on making generators, lawnmowers, scooters, the robots, ATV's etc, etc.
ok, ok i am off the soap box.:D |
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| Fireblade6 |
You know what? I WILL BE THE FIRST to say that..I freakin like the design. I LIKE IT!!!
You know what? Thats what a lot of the folks said when the Accord change to the third generation design...Honda and Acura designs for some reason are meant to grow on people...Not at first but..then..BAM!!! People start to like it.
Anyway...I like it:1: |
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| DaleB |
AS a coupe it looks better than the 4 door.
But I would take the lastest Passats over either design. Even the Altima for that matter. |
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| MDXtrous |
quote:
Originally posted by Rabbit
Here's some more spy shots for anyone interested...:cool:
http://www.autoweek.com/specials/ga...newaccord/1.htm
For the coupe, the back looks slick very much like a mercedes, the front is a little disspointing and looks more like the front of a Taurus. |
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| donsev |
quote:
Originally posted by MDXLuvr
I just wish honda would focus more on cars, and motorcycles, instead of spreading their R & D on making generators, lawnmowers, scooters, the robots, ATV's etc, etc.
ok, ok i am off the soap box.:D
I have always heard that Honda considers itself to be an "engine" company first and foremost - everything else is simply a carrier for its engine technology. (They do make some pretty nice wrappers for those engines though don't they?) |
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| paul123 |
| What the meaning behind your avatar? I'm not sure what an MDX going in and out of a jar of vasoline could mean? |
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| DaleB |
| Hahahaha.. Im not sure I want to know..!! :eek: |
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| manus1980 |
I think it looks great. It has that $40k+ European attitude but probably maintains ULEV without sacraficing any performance. You gotta admit the rounded dome like lines of the roof of the car continuing through both the front and rear windows is hot. It is asking to be driven fast. I remember reading that the dome shape has safety benefits because it distributes force better.
When the new Camry/ES300 came out everybody critized it because it was such a change. Change is good, keeps style from getting stagnant.
The only thing that I don't appreciate is that it appears to be the same size. I need more head and leg room. Honda is very meager with head and leg room. |
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| donsev |
quote:
Originally posted by paul123
What the meaning behind your avatar? I'm not sure what an MDX going in and out of a jar of vasoline could mean?
Just a little humor from roadrunner and sgtglok in reference to a previous thread:
Tight Fit
(Thanks again guys!) |
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| paul123 |
quote:
Originally posted by donsev
Just a little humor from roadrunner and sgtglok in reference to a previous thread:
Tight Fit
(Thanks again guys!)
LOL, I thought it might of had another meaning, I'd rather not say! |
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| srpbep |
| Interesting that we "crack" on the Accord design ... how much more successful could a car be?? ... maybe they know something that we don't ... maybe that is why we believe that the MDX is worth more than the Pilot ... whatever Honda is doing with the Accord, I don't think we are substantiated in saying that it is WRONG!! |
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| MDXtrous |
| Agreed they've been very successful with the Accord, but other companies are raising the bar when it comes to design such as the new Nissan Altima, Murano, Infinity G35, Z. If they don't stay with the game, they could loose out big. |
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| srpbep |
I do hear you MDXtrous; however, there is also the possibility that if they move on to "raising the bar when it comes to design" they might lose whatever it is that makes the Accord a continued seller.
Now that I said that, I think of Lincoln and Cadillac. They stayed "conservative" and now are FORCED to change.
Well, guess the test of time will reveal the "correct path" [20/20 hindsight is possible]. |
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| cardingtr |
Found this site.
http://community.webshots.com/album/44150265fKlFcS
If you can save and zoom the file, you can read the article. It has pic of center console too. Most notable are 16-in wheel, Voice activated Nav or they call it "voice-touch-screen", telescoping steering wheel. |
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| cardingtr |
| Heres the pics I got from auto.com.. |
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| cardingtr |
| One thing that bugs me, where's the fog lights? |
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| bdespain |
| Knowing Honda they have cut-outs in the air dam for fog lights. Installed by the dealer of course.:8: |
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| MDXtrous |
quote:
Originally posted by cardingtr
Heres the pics I got from auto.com..
Yuck!! Reminds me of the Toyota Avalon... |
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| Acura4Life |
I like it, but then again my whole family owns honda accords and Acuras. I use to own a honda accord Coupe.
Something about a voice activated navigation in that article.
COOL !
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by bdespain
Knowing Honda they have cut-outs in the air dam for fog lights. Installed by the dealer of course.:8:
Honda's got to give the dealer a way to gouge for money! Unfortunately the Pilot is the same way, cutouts required to put in the accessory fog lights.
Actually, I wonder if the fogs go into that "intake" section low on the nose, in the center. My Integras foglights went into that location. |
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| srpbep |
Hey, if I read this right, there are some good/neat things:
** 4-cyl horsepower is up a little.
** 6-cyl horsepower is up from 200 to 240, that's a 40 hp gain or 20% !!!
** The Accord gas mileage is improved. Hey that is neat, 40 more HP and better gas mileage!!
** Voice activated Navi -- sure sounds interesting, wonder how well it works. Wonder if the new MDX will incorporate the voice activation or whether Honda wants to test it first.
Sooooo ... they did some good thing :2: |
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| wmquan |
This article is overly positive, probably because the guy got to preview it:
http://www.auto.com/industry/accord25_20020725.htm
But there are some interesting features claimed.
Side curtain airbags! That would be a first for Honda. No mention if they're front + rear though I'd imagine they'd be. Better yet, if this is correct, it means that Honda went with curtains instead of the dual-chamber airbag that GM/Subaru/Saab are using. Bad news is that the author indicates the side curtains are only available in the EX V-6.
I'd imagine that other Honda/Acura products would eventually get side curtains too.
"DVD" and "MP3" player. Nice.
Sadly, zero mention of VSA, Honda's version of stability control, or any kind of xenon option. The Camry has the former and the Altima the latter, albeit in their high-end trims. |
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| MrPrescott |
By looking at the headlights and the doors, you can tell who its competition is . . . looks very Camry to me.. . . Teardrop eyes and high sides.
If the HP is 240, it'll compete with Altima well. People will buy it based on reputation; something that is questionable on the Altima. |
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| wmquan |
Edmunds First Look available at:
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/road...23/article.html
Side curtains are definitely in there. Honda news release on vtec.net:
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=26225
Rather stupid that Honda only makes the side airbags available in the top-of-the-line EX V6 model! The Camry has it optional for all trims, the Passat has it standard in all trims.
Edmunds review is typical Edmunds. Angry that Honda would dare say 'sports sedan' and you know how Edmunds is in love with the BMW 3-series. But they then backtrack and say it's a great, affordable family sedan. And that, after all, is what the Accord has always been about! |
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| MK23666 |
Honda Unveils Side Curtain Airbag Technology
Date: August 08, 2002 18:39
Submitted by: Tuan
Source: Honda Press Release
Credibility Rating: N/A
First model to be equipped is 2003 Accord
Torrance, CA 08/08/2002 -- Honda is introducing a new, rapidly deploying side curtain airbag that protects vehicle occupants from head and neck injuries in the event of a side collision. The side curtain airbag deploys over a wide area to protect both front and rear seat occupants, especially from head impacts to the center pillar. The first Honda to be equipped with the new airbags is the new 2003 Accord, available in September.
The new side curtain airbag is the latest product of Honda's airbag philosophy, developed to effectively protect the heads and necks of occupants with a variety of physiques in a variety of positions in the event of a side collision, without causing any collateral injury. In order to deploy the airbag to cover almost the entire side window surface instantaneously, the airbag is fitted with a low-temperature gas (compressed helium) inflator that achieves a deployment speed of approximately 0.015sec. This rapid deployment speed allows the bag to be made thicker for more effective impact absorption, reducing the shock to the head area at time of impact.
The system uses five impact sensors located in the middle of the vehicle and beside the left and right front seat occupants, along with sensors positioned next to the rear seat occupants. This permits optimum control over the inflation timing of the side curtain airbag and side airbags, depending on the form of side impact involved.
Honda first began basic airbag research in 1971. In 1987, it was the first Japanese auto maker to introduce a driver-side SRS airbag system. Honda independently developed its own airbag technology, including installation positioning, inflator characteristics, bag folding and storage, and various other features. In 1998, the same thinking was further applied to Honda's SRS system, featuring an inflator with a two-stage deployment system depending on the size of the impact, and a side airbag with an occupant posture detection sensor that combined improved occupant protection with reduced risk of collateral injury -- both world firsts. |
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| rliggayu |
| check out this interior, not bad. |
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