| manus1980 |
For the last year I've been doing an extensive search for a aftermarket exaust. I know any local pipe bender could custom make one, but then the final result is a gamble.
Last week I stumbled upon several companies that make aftermarket exaust for the Odyssey in Japan. The Odyssey shares the same engine and platform as the MDX so it caught my eye.
I looked at the stock exaust for the Odyssey, and MDX and just by eyeing them they look very similar. Any small adjustments can be done by a pipe bender if they need to be made.
I went on to the Odyssey forum and numerous members have these aftermarket exaust and no one seemed to be dissasstisfied with it. Here is a link to one of the companies http://www.kakimotoracing.com . Do you think it will work? |
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| renov8r |
Oh well, guess we DON'T have a luxury vehicle afterall...
Never saw a Mercedes with GIANT tailpipe...
Performance? Yeah, I've seen LOTS of Ferraris and Porsches with GIANT tailpipe so it MUST improve performance (NOT!!!)
For $850 I think you could do quite a bit that would ACTUALLY improve performance, but NOBODY would SEE or HEAR the kinds of modifications I'm thinking of, so you probably wouldn't be interested... |
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| Taiwanese |
| I think any BIG exhaust or BIG rims will downgrade the MDX. The X is already classy at its current shape. |
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| jonnygoodboy |
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Originally posted by Taiwanese
I think any BIG exhaust or BIG rims will downgrade the MDX. The X is already classy at its current shape.
I agree, this is one vehicle where they got the looks right already!:4: |
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| srpbep |
Hey, I wouldn't do it either BUT to each his/her own.
Maybe its 'cause I live in CA [LA LA land to be specific], maybe because I getting old [older??, real old???], but I do believe that an owner has the right to do whatever they want to their vehicle. Just my 2 cents. |
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| renov8r |
...but I'll voice my distate for some mods!
Lest you think I'm a stick in the mud, let me tell you about one of my other cars:
1987 Buick Regal T-Type
ordered new in November 1986, took delivery in Feb '87
modified engine -- 332 rw hp (chassis dyno proven)
best 1/4 mile: 11.22 @119 mph at the track
Back in 1988 I was at an event where a GNX that had been 'cut-up' with tubs and full cage. It was a disgrace as this car was only in the tens and should NOT have used a GNX as its platform. At the lights this driver suffered a transmission line failure and the car flamed. I CHEERED. It was an abomination. If they wanted to showcase the engine they should have gotten a bone yard G-body and built it up...
Anyhow that is kinda how I feel about doing something to cheapen the "cosmetics" of the MDX. Now, if somebody wanted to do something that would TRULY increase performance I'd be all for it. It is one thing to get some AMG, Brabus or Lorinser parts and improve ones S-class, it is another thing to do something more in keeping with the low-end of Honda's range... How many S2000s or NSXs are going to have "ricer tail pipes"?
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Originally posted by srpbep
Hey, I wouldn't do it either BUT to each his/her own.
Maybe its 'cause I live in CA [LA LA land to be specific], maybe because I getting old [older??, real old???], but I do believe that an owner has the right to do whatever they want to their vehicle. Just my 2 cents.
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| manus1980 |
If everyone here is happy driving the same exact suv as one another good for you. I'm not the follower type so I'm going to have to take a different stance on the subject. I drink Corona not your average generic beer. Everyone on this forum who responds to my posts seem to think exactly the same. Where is the life?
I remember someone on the forum bought a universal muffler and said they were going to post pics once installed. That was a couple months ago and I haven't seen the pics. If you read this showoff your ride. |
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| Maik |
| Hey, you want a big mufflah, then go for it. As long as it does not make a lot of noise you can carve up that bad boy all you want. No offense will be taken here. Hey, put 22 inch wheels on the rear, leave the stock wheels on the front, and get better mileage! Your X will always be going downhill! |
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| MDXtrous |
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Originally posted by manus1980
If everyone here is happy driving the same exact suv as one another good for you. I'm not the follower type so I'm going to have to take a different stance on the subject. I drink Corona not your average generic beer. Everyone on this forum who responds to my posts seem to think exactly the same. Where is the life?
I remember someone on the forum bought a universal muffler and said they were going to post pics once installed. That was a couple months ago and I haven't seen the pics. If you read this showoff your ride.
Hey manus,
I'm not sure if you are referring to this one:
http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/show...=&threadid=5960
I always enjoy it when people do different things to the X. I think it keeps it interesting and different than everybody else's, especially since you see so many of them on the street. Make sure you post pics of your X. I especially would like to see all of the different lighting you've put on... |
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| cardingtr |
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Originally posted by Maik
Hey, you want a big mufflah, then go for it. As long as it does not make a lot of noise you can carve up that bad boy all you want. No offense will be taken here. Hey, put 22 inch wheels on the rear, leave the stock wheels on the front, and get better mileage! Your X will always be going downhill!
Like this? Not an MDX but you'll get the idea how much power it will spit out. |
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| voltes |
| My goodness! :confused: |
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| Taiwanese |
| Wow :eek: :eek: :eek: |
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| jonnygoodboy |
| Does Batman know someone stole his ride? |
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| DaleB |
| Not enough money to chrome it I guess. I wonder if the construction site is still looking for it. |
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| Harry |
If and when someone builds a good SS system that intergrates the stock O2 sensers ,has the correct header design, increases performance is Quiet and has a true dual tailpipe, I may get one.
I have gotten credible information that Honda will be coming out with performance products for some of their vehicals and the MDX is one of them.
You may want to wait and see what the manufacturer has to offer.
I understand why a lot of members prefer their MDXs mostly adorned with factory type accessories.
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| bareyb |
I'm sorry, but I put "Phat" tailpipes into the same category as those "ho-made" aluminum wings. I try not to be judgemental but come on... That stuff is pure rice. It adds little or no performance gain and is strictly there to 'look' fast.
As to all of "us" wanting to look the same? The same can easily be said about "Phat tailpipers". I think people that put that stuff on are trying to be exactly like the crowd. Albeit a different crowd, but it's still a peer thing. Much like nose rings or Michael Jordan Nikes. It's all about fashion.
Don't kid yourself. You are still identifying with a particular group. It's human nature. Ironically, it's also human nature for said groups to then say they are renegades who are simply breaking free from Society's mold. When in fact they are more conformist than the norm!
Ah youth... I shudder to think what my two year old's generation will come up with to drive their parents crazy... :D |
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| MDXtrous |
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Originally posted by bareyb
I'm sorry, but I put "Phat" tailpipes into the same category as those "ho-made" aluminum wings. I try not to be judgemental but come on... That stuff is pure rice. It adds little or no performance gain and is strictly there to 'look' fast.
That can be said of a lot of things on cars. Does "real-wood" dash really make the car perform better/more comfortable? No, it just makes people think, look "I've made it", I'm rich, and I can afford to have a wood dash, wood steering wheel, and Montana leather seats. Doesn't add anything performance-wise to the car, it just "looks" good. I think we're all guilty of that, otherwise, all of us should just be getting Honda Pilots and Toyota Highlanders.
Some people like wood-dashes, others like a big, loud muffler... |
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| bareyb |
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Originally posted by MDXtrous
That can be said of a lot of things on cars. Does "real-wood" dash really make the car perform better/more comfortable? No, it just makes people think, look "I've made it", I'm rich, and I can afford to have a wood dash, wood steering wheel, and Montana leather seats. Doesn't add anything performance-wise to the car, it just "looks" good. I think we're all guilty of that, otherwise, all of us should just be getting Honda Pilots and Toyota Highlanders.
Some people like wood-dashes, others like a big, loud muffler...
Exactly my point. That is the group that WE identify with. People that buy Acura and Lexus vehicles have a certain set of values (we also appreciate good value and reliability) and we see ourselves in a certain way that lead us to buy that particular brand and model.
I daresay we feel "smarter" than those that buy Mercedes or BMW branded SUV's. Just look how vehemently people defend their choices on boards like these... Mercedes folks are in another set, as are hard core off roaders. Each group whether they will admit it or not, feels their group is the better group. It's all sub groups and it's all human nature.
Cars are especially susceptible to this as they do tend to project a certain image and statement about the person driving it. Go to Tahoe and you will see ALOT of Jeep Cherokees. Go to a construction site and you will see ALOT of Ford pickup trucks. Even people who drive "sensible" cars or hybrids are doing so because that vehicle agrees with how they see themselves. I find it quite interesting... That darn Sociology course in College just won't get out of my head... :D |
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| renov8r |
...and I wish other would too.
If/when Honda or some other source comes out with an exhuast sytem that is a PERFORMANCE upgrade from stock I'd be more willing to consider that vs a "styling option" type exhuast.
Further, if others feel the same way, then there will be an incentive for manufacturers to produce valuable performance parts as opposed to "no go all show" pieces...
I see this as different than "neon light", "glowing pedals", "decals", or even pin stripes. All of those items are purely style things, and as for style, I do say 'to each their own' as EVERYBODY wants their vehicel to look a little different (even if it just the license plate numbers & letters :D:D).
If you are going to spend money on 'apperance enhancements', it does bother me at all, it's just when the line of "fake performance" is crossed that I get bothered. (As you might guess, I think the manufacturers of other parts styled after REAL perfromance enhancing parts like through the hood fake blowers, giant wings, drilled rotors, splitters or other 'bling bling' are also grabbing dollars that would be better spent on actaully improving performance...) |
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| Harry |
These threads are getting very interesting. I usually avoid any and all debates
regardless of the subject simply because we all have different ways of looking at the same things and we are not always right nor wrong. This attitude has served me very well over the years and the older I get, the more sense it makes.
Anyways, aren't we truly being different when we are truly being ourselves. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by MDXtrous
Some people like wood-dashes, others like a big, loud muffler...
Those are not the same. My wood dash will never have any impact on anyone else. I simply like the way it looks. That loud muffler, however, represents an infringment on my right to a reasonably quiet environment. I put them in the same category as those absolutely stupid huge subwoofers that vibrate the entire town because some jerk has an inferiority complex and that is the only way they can say "see me" "see me". On the other hand, some other see me crap, including some of those huge errector sets I see on the trunks of some cars cause no one else any cause for concern, and actually provide some comic relief.
Hey, modify the hell out of your car, just dont make me have to hear it. |
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| MDXtrous |
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Originally posted by Maik
Those are not the same. My wood dash will never have any impact on anyone else. I simply like the way it looks. That loud muffler, however, represents an infringment on my right to a reasonably quiet environment. I put them in the same category as those absolutely stupid huge subwoofers that vibrate the entire town because some jerk has an inferiority complex and that is the only way they can say "see me" "see me". On the other hand, some other see me crap, including some of those huge errector sets I see on the trunks of some cars cause no one else any cause for concern, and actually provide some comic relief.
Hey, modify the hell out of your car, just dont make me have to hear it.
Ok, I missed that point :rolleyes: but some of the mods, such as clear lights, blue lights, and the huge wings don't really bother anyone, and I think it's fine, just as you said, it doesn't bother's someone's eardrum.
In regards to the the wood dash it was not meant to apply to the MDX, because there is none. I was thinking more of arguements of how much more wood the MB, BMW, and Lexus have than the X, and that makes the MDX so much more inferior, when in fact, does it really matter if it's real wood? |
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| MDXtrous |
Just notice that recently a lot of the discussions are a lot more passionate than they used to be... It used to be only the Lester, tim99 ones, but wow, I guess that's what makes it fun...
What is this thread about by the way??? |
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| MDXtrous |
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Originally posted by MDXtrous
Just notice that recently a lot of the discussions are a lot more passionate than they used to be... It used to be only the Lester, tim99 ones, but wow, I guess that's what makes it fun...
What is this thread about anyway???
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| socalJD |
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... That stuff is pure rice... :D
Musta missed somethin', what is meant by 'pure rice' ??? |
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| MDXtrous |
"rice" is a term used for stereotyping the people that like to buy Civics, Mitsubishis, and Integras, etc. (I guess late teen, early twenty-somethings) and soup them up with aftermarket mufflers, spoilers, aero kits, neon lights, clear lamp lenses, etc.. Often times they are Asians, therefore the term "rice". Sometimes their cars are called "rice" cookers.
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Musta missed somethin', what is meant by 'pure rice' ???
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| Taiwanese |
It's all about statement. Whatever you choose to drive, sends a statement to other people about you. In general people choose Acuar think the same in some way, so does Lexus or MB or ......
Weather you mod you car or not is a personal choise. I just think adding big exhaust downgrade our wonderful car. |
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| socalJD |
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Originally posted by MDXtrous
. . . Asians, therefore the term "rice". Sometimes their cars are called "rice" cookers. . .
Thanks for the clarification . . . obviously not a PC term to be thrown around. This thread is deteriorating rather quickly, what next, midnite meetings and hoods & capes ??? |
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| 02SSmdx |
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Originally posted by MDXtrous
"rice" is a term used for stereotyping the people that like to buy Civics, Mitsubishis, and Integras, etc. (I guess late teen, early twenty-somethings) and soup them up with aftermarket mufflers, spoilers, aero kits, neon lights, clear lamp lenses, etc.. Often times they are Asians, therefore the term "rice". Sometimes their cars are called "rice" cookers.
Generally refers more to the cars being japanese and souped up then the people driving them. The cars are usually refered to as "Rice Rockets".
I'm Asian and a former Integra owner that didn't fix it up. I've never been offended by the term. |
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| bareyb |
| Believe it or not, I first heard the term on THIS website. There was a link to this website about it: http://www.noricers.com/ I was just trying to be "hip and in the know". I actually had never heard the term before about a month ago... I never quite knew what those things were called, I've just always been somewhat confused by them. The ones I've "heard" go by sound absoutely terrible. Kind of like the car is running underwater. Not exactly an improvement in my book. Acuras are meant to be quiet. It's pure blasphemy to put one of those exhausts on them! :D |
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| socalJD |
Bareyb thanks for the link - I now know what at least those guys consider to be a 'ricer' . . . in terms of cars, I would agree, they have no purpose being on the road. Typecasting the car or modifications to a car is much more palatable than singling out the owner/driver demographics of said cars . . . mystery solved.
Oops, on a more lighter note . . . I just passed 100 . . . yikes, I gotta get a life . . . :eek: :4: :p :D |
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| Taiwanese |
this thread starts out with after market exhaust and now we are talking about "ricer"??
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| renov8r |
For a variety of reasons, exhaust mods are #1 for the compact import sport category.
It is a "bolt-on" mod, that requires no special tools/skills. It is much less costly to develop than camshafts, intakes, or other engine parts. It is hard to "screw-up" unlike changes to electronic engine contorls & fuel system. It is immeadiately noticeable to passersby & ayour pals/competition.
In a few cases (notably older turbocharged vehicles) there were significant 'free' gains in horsepower to be made for raising boost pressure and opening up the exhaust.
I do not consider the "rice rocket/ricer" terms to be anything other than descriptive sort of like "lead sled", "low rider", "swamp buggy", "sleeper", "trailer queen", "pony car", "muscle car", "pimp mobile", "gangsta ride", ALL evoke images that describe a type/class of vehicle in a colorful way. No offense was meant, and I have seen numerous writers of Asian background who feel the same way.
It is likely that one of the many shops fabricating aftermarket exhust systems for compact Asian import sports will (is now) making something for the MDX/Pilot. It is my hope that if such products are developed, they are in keeping with the luxury character of the MDX, actaully improve performace in a cost effective way, and contribute to the Pilot & MDX's overall image in a positive manner.
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Originally posted by Taiwanese
this thread starts out with after market exhaust and now we are talking about "ricer"??
what next?
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| manus1980 |
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Those are not the same. My wood dash will never have any impact on anyone else. I simply like the way it looks. That loud muffler, however, represents an infringment on my right to a reasonably quiet environment. I put them in the same category as those absolutely stupid huge subwoofers that vibrate the entire town because some jerk has an inferiority complex and that is the only way they can say "see me" "see me". On the other hand, some other see me crap, including some of those huge errector sets I see on the trunks of some cars cause no one else any cause for concern, and actually provide some comic relief.
Your wood dash disturbs me.jk I enjoy my sub and so do many others. When I go down to the shore and turn up my bass it isn't because I have an inferiority complex but it is done for enjoyment. When I see others doing the same it grabs my attention and curiosity but not in negative, hateful sense. I can't understand why some people are disturbed by their enjoyment as long as they aren't blasting their music or muffler in a residential neighborhood. Then that person truly is a selfish jerk. Let us have our fun and life is too short to playa hate. jk :2: |
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| rwx |
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Originally posted by manus1980
Your wood dash disturbs me.jk I enjoy my sub and so do many others. When I go down to the shore and turn up my bass it isn't because I have an inferiority complex but it is done for enjoyment. When I see others doing the same it grabs my attention and curiosity but not in negative, hateful sense. I can't understand why some people are disturbed by their enjoyment as long as they aren't blasting their music or muffler in a residential neighborhood. Then that person truly is a selfish jerk. Let us have our fun and life is too short to playa hate. jk :2:
I would say it is ok for MDX owners to modify whatever they want to their X - low ride, neon light, bull bar, spoiler as well as phat muffler. Just do so without causing other to be upset. Of course, upsetting just one person out of the whole world shouldn't be an issue at all. But if enough people got affected negatively, it should be avoid or done at a manner that won't upset others. e.g. Blasting music around others who are also doing the same.
Sound and vision are two very different things. One can turn away so not to look at something he doesn't want to see but few can stop hearing to sound he doesn't want to hear (without putting their hand onto his ears).
Just my $0.03 anyway (dame inflation). :cool: |
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| bareyb |
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I can't understand why some people are disturbed by their enjoyment as long as they aren't blasting their music or muffler in a residential neighborhood.
I think I would add that they should not be blasted where other cars have to be shaken by it as well. Such as at stop lights for instance. On more than one occassion I've had my Kid asleep in his car seat only to be awakened from some jerk showing off in his boom boom car.
I used to work at a Car Stereo Store and always had very powerful sound systems in my cars (before I got sick of constantly working on them and having dead batteries etc.) and one thing I ALWAYS did was turn it down at stop lights. For one thing, I knew it only made me look like a Jerk with MY music blasting out the Window. I knew it was also inconsiderate, that all folks like Rock music and lastly, that I was only asking for somebody to follow me home and steal the whole works.
I can't tell you how many guys we had to re-install their sound sytems because somebody came to their house and took it. You guys might want to consider that when your booming away at stop lights. Alot of thieves will simply follow you home and steal your whole car just so they can drive it somewhere and strip out the sound system. Some of these cars you can hear a block away have systems that cost thousands of dollars and it's quite worth it to a theif to steal the car just for the Stereo system. It happens all the time. In fact "stalking" is one of the most common ways professional stereo thieves find victims. Rap concerts are another. Something to think about... |
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| DaleB |
Good advice, bareyb!
And speaking of installations, have you ever gone to Security & Auto Sound on Bernardo and El Camino?
I've been there in the past for some basic alarm and stereo work. They treated me very good. Very professional and honest.
I don't know if the same people are still there. |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by bareyb
I think I would add that they should not be blasted where other cars have to be shaken by it as well. Such as at stop lights for instance. On more than one occassion I've had my Kid asleep in his car seat only to be awakened from some jerk showing off in his boom boom car.
I used to work at a Car Stereo Store and always had very powerful sound systems in my cars (before I got sick of constantly working on them and having dead batteries etc.) and one thing I ALWAYS did was turn it down at stop lights. For one thing, I knew it only made me look like a Jerk with MY music blasting out the Window. I knew it was also inconsiderate, that all folks like Rock music and lastly, that I was only asking for somebody to follow me home and steal the whole works.
I can't tell you how many guys we had to re-install their sound sytems because somebody came to their house and took it. You guys might want to consider that when your booming away at stop lights. Alot of thieves will simply follow you home and steal your whole car just so they can drive it somewhere and strip out the sound system. Some of these cars you can hear a block away have systems that cost thousands of dollars and it's quite worth it to a theif to steal the car just for the Stereo system. It happens all the time. In fact "stalking" is one of the most common ways professional stereo thieves find victims. Rap concerts are another. Something to think about...
I guess we are safe from these stalkers with the Bose Touring stereos! |
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| Maik |
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Originally posted by manus1980
Your wood dash disturbs me.jk I enjoy my sub and so do many others. When I go down to the shore and turn up my bass it isn't because I have an inferiority complex but it is done for enjoyment. When I see others doing the same it grabs my attention and curiosity but not in negative, hateful sense. I can't understand why some people are disturbed by their enjoyment as long as they aren't blasting their music or muffler in a residential neighborhood. Then that person truly is a selfish jerk. Let us have our fun and life is too short to playa hate. jk :2:
You will understand someday when you are far more mature and footing the bill for your own family. For now, enjoy daddy's credit card and boom all the way to a future hearing disability. |
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| bareyb |
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Originally posted by DaleB
Good advice, bareyb!
And speaking of installations, have you ever gone to Security & Auto Sound on Bernardo and El Camino?
I've been there in the past for some basic alarm and stereo work. They treated me very good. Very professional and honest.
I don't know if the same people are still there.
Actually I have been in there. I used to live off of Bernardo. I only went in to buy some speaker wire from them though (Car stereo stores are a great way to get very good quality oxygen free speaker wire for your home for a fraction of what Monster Cable charges and it's as good or better quality). I haven't had a "non stock" stereo in quite a few years.
I used to manage AMS Car Stereo many years ago. They were on Grant Road and El Camino right down the street. They sold out though, but still have a store on Stevens Creek in Santa Clara. I don't believe the original owner still owns Auto Sound and Security if it's the same people I'm remembering. His Wife was a pretty cute looking Asian Gal and I think his name was Tony or something like that and was a young Asian guy with glasses and he did installations. They were a very nice couple. I think they sold the place a couple of years ago as I haven't spotted either one in quite a few times of driving by.
The Car Stereo biz has a high burnout rate. At least the ones that provide installations do. It's a very cut throat business, especially with the huge chains getting involved now, and there are always LOTS of problems with installations and keeping good installers etc. It took me about 3 years there to figure out I wanted nothing to do with that business before I ran for the hills. I had been considering buying a stereo shop at one point in my life, but decided I'd better try managing one first and see how I liked it. I'm glad I tried it out first... :D |
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| manus1980 |
| The most unintelligent response to any sort of debate is a personal attack. Especially one for everyone's eyes that can't even fill 2 lines! You know who you are and I'm not going to stoop to your level for more reasons then I care to list. How would it make you feel to know I bought this automobile through my own earnings or that my dad isn't alive? Taking into consideration I'm in my 20s it would probably just give you more reason to have disdain for me. I respect that your older then me, pay taxes, and have a family. Just think, we could have been good friends. There is no reason for this. |
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| spellbinder |
| Hey can anyone suggest where I could get the best wood trims and the best sound system upgrade?:rolleyes: |
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| MDXtrous |
| Why is it that we all have to assume that all MDX buyers are the same? It's probably true that many are in their thirties and forties with a wife and kids living in an upscale suburban neighborhood, with a six figure combined household income (Probably MDX's main target market), but there are others that are not in the same demographics that also enjoy the X. That's what makes this forum interesting. There is no need to attack just because someone doesn't fall within our "stereotyped" definition of an X owner, and chooses to go a bit "beyond" what we have defined as "boundaries". |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by bareyb
I used to manage AMS Car Stereo many years ago. They were on Grant Road and El Camino right down the street. They sold out though, but still have a store on Stevens Creek in Santa Clara. I don't believe the original owner still owns Auto Sound and Security if it's the same people I'm remembering. His Wife was a pretty cute looking Asian Gal and I think his name was Tony or something like that and was a young Asian guy with glasses and he did installations. They were a very nice couple. I think they sold the place a couple of years ago as I haven't spotted either one in quite a few times of driving by.
Yup! Tony and his cute wife! I had them install a 12 Disk Pioneer changer on our minivan about 4 years ago. Tony was very agreeable since I was a return customer and did it for $300 installed. Which was about the list price of the unit, and it had not been on the market very long. When his wife took the money she kind of frowned, "The 1257?
You got it but believe me I am going to have a talk with Tony, that the usual install price for a premium 6 disk or 10 disk changer."
Previously they had done a Clifford alarm on the same car.
The first install were custom 6X9 speaker into the tailgate of a 91 Taurus wagon. Tony gave me a price, around $150 installed, and a time of 90 minutes. It took him almost 2 1/2 hours because they had to make custom adapters and paint them to match the interior. He said, I am not going to charge you more than what I quoted, but that job was a pain. But I think you will enjoy it.
Good memories, they were good people. |
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| Harry |
Thank you MDXtrous;)
Live and let live and keep an open mind but don't make me have to listen to booming , parts rattling noise in public. PLEASE:(
One of the best parts of getting older is that common sense starts to become a way of life, an attitude.
Now lets start talking about real (quiet) exhaust performance.
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| bareyb |
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a way of life, an attitude.
Now lets start talking about real (quiet) exhaust performance.
Harry
Excellent point. Take a look at any real exhaust company such as Borla and Flowmaster and the first thing you will notice is that they take great pride in making lots of extra horsepower and doing it QUIETLY.
The difference in my mind is that with the former, the first priority is improved performance with any added noise being consequential. An unavoidable tradeoff. With the latter, the priority seems to be to "louder" and any increase in Horsepower is consequential.
I suppose some feel the Phat pipes "look good", but to me they just seem silly because I know they have no added benefit other than cosmetic. I suppose it wouldn't seem so silly if true high perf. after market exhausts didn't exist. It's kindof like a bald man with a cheap toupe. It's not the real thing, and the person who is wearing it thinks they look cool when in fact they probably would look better to just go with their "stock" appearance. :D
I also understand that true performance after market exhaust systems are VERY expensive and alot of younger folks can't afford them or wouldn't want them anyway, because they are too quiet. Ironically, I do understand the mind set for wanting the Phat pipes. Espcially if it is a "peer thing" and all your friends are doing it. I was young once and I will admit to doing some pretty embarrassing things in my youth in the name of fashion. One of which was to simply saw a hole in the exhaust pipe just before the muffler of my 1968 Chevy "Bel-Air" (Mom's hand me down) in order to "make it sound good". I'm sure my older neighbors probably looked at me with disdain as well. I guess I'm showing my age... |
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Don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't mind owning a Ferrari 550 or 575, but, you know what, the exhaust is anything but quiet. That thing will wake up a whole block:eek:
I'm actually quite indifferent to the sound thing, probably because I'm so numb to it living in NYC... But, I can see the inappropriateness in residential suburban neighborhoods. Oh well... |
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Originally posted by manus1980
The most unintelligent response to any sort of debate is a personal attack. Especially one for everyone's eyes that can't even fill 2 lines! You know who you are and I'm not going to stoop to your level for more reasons then I care to list. How would it make you feel to know I bought this automobile through my own earnings or that my dad isn't alive? Taking into consideration I'm in my 20s it would probably just give you more reason to have disdain for me. I respect that your older then me, pay taxes, and have a family. Just think, we could have been good friends. There is no reason for this.
Hey I envy you man!
I did not have my own car when I was in my 20s.
I had to inherit one from my dad.
You could teach me a lot!
I might drive to NJ this coming month.
I need to see a friend.
Perhaps we could meet up and you show me your upgrades.
I have heard there are some fine girls there in NJ ;) |
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Sure anyone in the tri-state region can meet up with me. Although for the last 3 years I live most of the year in New Orleans and just come down a couple months to visit my family. PM me with the date and we can maybe get some others to meet up with of the other too.
As of now I don't have nearly have as many mods as I'd prefer to have. Some of you guys may have come under the impression that my stereo can be heard from inside their car. Not the case, but my point is I don't mind it all that much when I hear other people's sub and I completly understand how some people dislike it.
Also some people think that I want some loud coffea can exaust because I'm a yute. All I said is that I want an aftermarket exaust with more power. Don't want a fart pipe at all. |
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