| 2003MDX |
03 price really throws me out of my budget too..
Now I have a chance to decide between
02 Touring +Navi @ MSRP($39800) or 03 Touring @ MSRP($38800)
They are exactly $1000 apart, and I prefer a car with a Navigation and can't wait until Jan/03. I am even thinking converting to 03 Pilot EX-L + Navi(old Navi too).
Will I really miss the 03's features? 20Hp, VSA, Redesign Wheel. More powerful audio, drive-by-wire?
Does the 02's Bose sounds really that bad?
Can you really tell the difference by the exterior of 02 and 03 MDX models besides the rim redesign?
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| Lynn |
I had the same dilemma. I decided on the 2002 -- you cannot tell from the exterior of the car, except for the minor change on the "Acura" trim on the rear of the MDX -- and the tire rims. I would not notice either of them .. However, the new improvements were nice ... it was very tempting ...
My main problem is that I really wanted the touring with navi -- and I cannot wait until January -- seems like most people are happy with their 2002 MDX -- figure if I love it, in 4 years I can get the REALLY improved 2006! |
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| wmquan |
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Originally posted by 2003MDX
03 price really throws me out of my budget too..
Now I have a chance to decide between
02 Touring +Navi @ MSRP($39800) or 03 Touring @ MSRP($38800)
They are exactly $1000 apart, and I prefer a car with a Navigation and can't wait until Jan/03. I am even thinking converting to 03 Pilot EX-L + Navi(old Navi too).
Will I really miss the 03's features? 20Hp, VSA, Redesign Wheel. More powerful audio, drive-by-wire?
Does the 02's Bose sounds really that bad?
Can you really tell the difference by the exterior of 02 and 03 MDX models besides the rim redesign?
I'm going to take the contrarian view here about going with the 2002's.
You can spend $1,200 more than the '02 Touring+Nav and get a significantly better navigation system, a very good safety feature to have with VSA (it should correct the MDX's slight fishtailing, as demonstrated by Consumer Reports and Motor Week), and numerous other creature comfort improvements (smoother ride, smoother shifting, possibly less noise and harshness, auto up/down window for the driver, etc. etc.).
I realize you may already be at the top of your budget, and I can understand the psychological implications of breaking the $40k barrier, but the key question is whether or not the $1,200 plus extra taxes (sales, a slight lux tax) is a deal-breaker for you. You do get a lot for it. A lot of 2001/2002 owners would gladly pay the extra to get the upgrades. If you're going to live with this vehicle for a while, will you be happy knowing what you could have gotten for an extra $1,200?
I only think the 2002 is a good buy if you can get a signficant discount off of MSRP. If you're going to sell or trade-in the vehicle within several years, just the depreciation hit alone by going with the 2002 will offset most of that $1,200. |
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| Lynn |
| Oh, yeah -- I got them to come off $1,000 on the price of the 2002, also! That really helped me make the decision, too!! |
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| Lynn |
| I do agree with Mr. Quinn -- however, it was the timing factor more than the price issue! I have already sold my car -- and I just can't wait until January (and possibly later)! |
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| wmquan |
quote:
Originally posted by Lynn
I do agree with Mr. Quinn -- however, it was the timing factor more than the price issue! I have already sold my car -- and I just can't wait until January (and possibly later)!
Time pressure is always the final arbiter in most decisions. Every vehicle purchase decision is made at a point in time. |
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| mdxxxx |
quote:
Originally posted by wmquan
...I'm going to take the contrarian view here about going with the 2002's.
You can spend $1,200 more than the '02 Touring+Nav and get a significantly better navigation system, a very good safety feature to have with VSA (it should correct the MDX's slight fishtailing, as demonstrated by Consumer Reports and Motor Week), another excellent safety feature in the rear-view camera, and numerous other creature comfort improvements (smoother ride, smoother shifting, possibly less noise and harshness, auto up/down window for the driver, etc. etc.).
I realize you may already be at the top of your budget, and I can understand the psychological implications of breaking the $40k barrier, but the key question is whether or not the $1,200 plus extra taxes (sales, a slight lux tax) is a deal-breaker for you. You do get a lot for it. A lot of 2001/2002 owners would gladly pay the extra to get the upgrades. If you're going to live with this vehicle for a while, will you be happy knowing what you could have gotten for an extra $1,200?
I only think the 2002 is a good buy if you can get a signficant discount off of MSRP. If you're going to sell or trade-in the vehicle within several years, just the depreciation hit alone by going with the 2002 will offset most of that $1,200.
I might add, that I'd guess that one may pay an additional $40 to $50 per month (depending on the loan interest), per thousand dollars. Not much difference. However, I truely understand the psychology behind hitting "monetary barriers":4: I can say that after I did not opt for the Navi:( |
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| wmquan |
Probably the biggest buyer's regret I've seen with the MDX is not getting the Navi, I'm sorry to say. While I think the majority of folks who did not get the Navi are happy with their decision (I am), the quantity of the minority on this system (for the last couple of years) makes that the largest "buyer's regret" item. Especially since you can't retrofit the Navi and the third-party systems aren't as well-integrated.
Usually folks who buy the Base or the Touring don't have regrets about their decision to get the Base/get the Touring.
Yeah, the psychology make sense, though, because where do you stop? E.g. for another $2,000, one can get another trim. But then another $2,000 may buy a competing vehicle which may be more attractive. It just goes on and on. |
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| MDXtrous |
| I'd agree with the "go with the 2003s" crowd. Especially with the improvemnts to the HP, VSA, and Navi improvements. I've done the calculation and with current rates it's about $20 more per $1000 of car. That's three lunches here in Manhattan/month, not much I'd say for the incremental features. Additionally, in five years you'll be selling a 2003 instead of 2002 MDX, which could make up some of the difference... |
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| kishino |
| Also if you get the NAV for 2003 you also get the back-up camera. Many here have installed rear sensors or cameras. This also decreases the price increase, as you will have to add these later on which can be costly especially for the camera via the NAV screen. |
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| nm2 |
2003MDX,
You have to wait for Tour w/ Nav till Jan 03? I thought they were available by Nov/Dec? We go to the same dealership so I'm suprised you have a difft date...unless you placed your order later than me pushing you into the Dec build...?
IMOH, I think you should go for the 2003 or a 03 Pilot, which will retain their value longer than a 02 MDX.
MDXtrous is right, over a longer period of time, that $1000 difference is barely noticeable. |
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| EXCALIBUR |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003MDX
Does the 02's Bose sounds really that bad?
When I first got my MDX, I thought I could live with the Bose stereo. However, after a few months, the flaws in the system really started to dissapoint me. There are no highs, no stereo separation, no soundstage, and the subwoofer is whimpy. I finally broke down and went with an after market stereo system. The only thing I kept was the Bose head unit. |
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| 2003MDX |
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Originally posted by nm2
2003MDX,
You have to wait for Tour w/ Nav till Jan 03? I thought they were available by Nov/Dec? We go to the same dealership so I'm suprised you have a difft date...unless you placed your order later than me pushing you into the Dec build...?
IMOH, I think you should go for the 2003 or a 03 Pilot, which will retain their value longer than a 02 MDX.
MDXtrous is right, over a longer period of time, that $1000 difference is barely noticeable.
nm2, Did you get a Build Date for your 03 T+Navi?
My 03 Touring's Build Date is 10/16. Dealer told me that a 02 T+Navi is available too. After the price bumps on the Touring without significant change in interior made me thinking to change my order to 02 T+Navi for $1000 more than what I am paying now. I really like the Navi feature, and don't mind to go and take the 03 Pilot(Old Navi too). So why not pick the 02 T+Navi for extra $1000, and enjoy the Navi System. I can't wait for Jan/03 since I sold my car already.
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| nm2 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003MDX
nm2, Did you get a Build Date for your 03 T+Navi?
My 03 Touring's Build Date is 10/16. Dealer told me that a 02 T+Navi is available too. After the price bumps on the Touring without significant change in interior made me thinking to change my order to 02 T+Navi for $1000 more than what I am paying now. I really like the Navi feature, and don't mind to go and take the 03 Pilot(Old Navi too). So why not pick the 02 T+Navi for extra $1000, and enjoy the Navi System. I can't wait for Jan/03 since I sold my car already.
:rolleyes:
My question was, why do you have to wait for Jan 03?
No, I don't have a build date yet but dealer said we made into the Nov build. ( by the way, you end up paying $1200 more for T+Nav now). |
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| pthai |
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Originally posted by kishino
Also if you get the NAV for 2003 you also get the back-up camera.
I agree. I have the 2002 touring/navi and am very happy with it but if I had a choice I would wait for the 2003 mainly because of the integrated backup camera. But I also think that you will be very happy with a 2002 X as well so I think it's a win/win situation. Good luck with your decision. |
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| 2003MDX |
nm2,
Since I placed my order for 03 Touring Already(Build Date 10/16), need to rewait for 03 T+Nav, and that will push me to next year....:(
I placed the order in August for 03 Base, upgraded to 03 Touring in Sept. |
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| 2003MDX |
quote:
Originally posted by MDXtrous
I'd agree with the "go with the 2003s" crowd. Especially with the improvemnts to the HP, VSA, and Navi improvements. I've done the calculation and with current rates it's about $20 more per $1000 of car. That's three lunches here in Manhattan/month, not much I'd say for the incremental features. Additionally, in five years you'll be selling a 2003 instead of 2002 MDX, which could make up some of the difference...
It is not the $1200 decision from 02 T+Nav to 03 one, I can't wait until next year to get the car. I have to decide if I want a 02 T+Navi or 03 Touring in Oct with $1000 difference. I do like the VSA and 20HP, Drive-by-Wire. But I do prefer a Navi if I have a choice. I am not racing my car with X5 and pround to beat it for extra 0.25 sec. Reduce Noise for 03 is a plus, but If I can live with ML320's noise. 02 Model will suit me very well. For the poor 02 Bose sound quality. Will they really improve that many in 03 models?
I am planing to keep the car for a while, 1000+ less in reselling value is not a factor to me. Since YOU CAN'T PHYSICALLY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 02 AND 03 MODELS. |
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| HrdTsk |
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Originally posted by EXCALIBUR
When I first got my MDX, I thought I could live with the Bose stereo. However, after a few months, the flaws in the system really started to dissapoint me. There are no highs, no stereo separation, no soundstage, and the subwoofer is whimpy. I finally broke down and went with an after market stereo system. The only thing I kept was the Bose head unit.
Any pics of the install?
What did you use? |
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| hockeyplayer |
| I am in the same boat as you 2003mdx. I need a vehicle in the next couple weeks and have now set in my mind that navigation is a must. I haven't heard too many unhappy 2002 owners. Heck I have memorized the brochure for the 2002. My decision is not only availability but a monetary issue as well. I know I will be happy with a 2002. Heck, there is nothing stopping me from talking to the nav system.....so what if it doesn't respond:) |
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| EXCALIBUR |
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Originally posted by HrdTsk
Any pics of the install?
What did you use?
Sorry, there are no pictures of the installation. Everything was a "stealth" install. My MDX looks completely stock. I did retain the Bose head unit and added: Boston Acoustic speakers front and rear, two Boston Acoustic subwoofers in a custom enclosure mounted flush in the third row seat area, and power provided by two Rockford Fosgate amplifiers. "An amusing stereo system, a bit presumptuous, yet ultimately palatable.":7: |
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| Lynn |
Hockeyplayer and 2003mdx -- throw me in the same boat!! I can't wait til Jan '03 either -- would rather have one with Navi than without -- so I am going with 2002. My reasoning was the same ... haven't heard anyone really unhappy with the 2002 -- figure they will continue upgrading, making better -- maybe I will love it so much I will get a new 2006 or so!!! I am getting $1,000 off MSRP on the 2002, also. However, I am adding some options (towing package, for one) -- but, I think I will be happy with my decision!
Lynn |
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| gregguy |
| I felt the same debate about a month ago when I was getting ready to take delivery of my '02 Touring & NAV MDX. The new features were being discussed for the '03 and I didn't even know the exact pricing for the '03. I went ahead and bought the '02 when it came in. For me, it was less about the money and more about the truck. I love the Navigation, it is a great feature that really "finishes" off the look of the truck. I was concerned because when I test drove the X, they didn't have one with NAV. I had never seen it before except when I test drove a QX4 (glorified Pathfinder). Trust me, you will not be disappointed. Go with your gut, the '02s are great. The improvements are relatively minimal between 02 and 03, it is not like it is a complete redesign. Just my two cents....not to be trite but its the old "bird in the had vs. two in the bush". If I have learned one thing from dealing with an Acura dealer, take the sure thing, who knows when they will really deliver in the future. |
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| Lynn |
Thanks for the reassurance! I think I will be really happy with the '02 -- and I am sure the people getting the '03 will be happy also! It is just what worked for me this time ... couldn't "wait" any longer.
Glad you love your '02!
Lynn |
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| 2003MDX |
Thanks Guys
I think I will go ahead and get hte 02 Nav( I think that was the last 02 truck they made). But who cares with the extra 20HP, VSA, and Chrome air vent, and Pilot looks Radio. I will be better off with the Navi than the minimial upgrade of both exterior and interior of 03.
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| renov8r |
I unfortunatlely believe this is true:quote:
Originally posted by gregguy
...If I have learned one thing from dealing with an Acura dealer, take the sure thing, who knows when they will really deliver in the future.
It is quite sad that even though Acura is supposes to be a luxury brand, the tricks that dealers play with delivery dates and such are horrifying. Even if you have a good situation with a paid off vehicle, there is huge difference between KNOWING your MDX will be available in a month or four!
While I know that the relatively small number of dealers and total volume are factors, one would think dealers have "nothing to lose and only friends to make" if they are more upfront about when a vehicle is most likely to appear.
Some of the salespeople & dealer personel who've posted here seem to be able to accurately read the information supplied by the factory. A few buyers have even reported that they've been shown detailed lists of how many buyers are "ahead of 'em" at a specific dealer. These are NOT people who seem to have 'abused' the dealer system by ordering at multiple stores or even getting outrageous discounts. These are simply buyers who apperciate being kept "in the loop". If Acura wanted to do something that would REALLY go a long way to improving its preception, they should make dealers aware of how important accurate delivery info to many {potential} buyers. |
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| gregguy |
| I couldn't have said it better myself. A little respect and consideration goes a long way. The most frustrating part is that they gave me a number in writing on a purchase order that they would give me for my trade. After delays and "miscommunications" the truck finally arrived. When I went to pick it up the dealer explained that my car had depreciated $1500 during the wait so they wanted more. Needless to say, I was not happy and made it known. It took three and a half hours for me to pick up my truck from the dealer. I actually walked out twice. Finally at 8:30 they came around and threw in some accessories, dropped the price on the truck and basically got the deal back to where it was originally. |
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| case1906 |
quote:
Originally posted by 2003MDX
Thanks Guys
I think I will go ahead and get hte 02 Nav( I think that was the last 02 truck they made). But who cares with the extra 20HP, VSA, and Chrome air vent, and Pilot looks Radio. I will be better off with the Navi than the minimial upgrade of both exterior and interior of 03.
;)
2003MDX ---I went through this thought process not too long ago. Good move. Get the vehicle now and enjoy it . This will also eliminate the feeling of being a sucker as you wait, wait, wait for the 03. Oh, and don't forget to change your screen name :7: :2: |
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| hockeyplayer |
case or anyone with the premium, what are your opinions on the premium vs touring? Do you have any regrets? Reason being there is a premium nav at the nearest dealer right now that I am going to look at. I will see if they come off the price like they say on their mass email. Why do I doubt that. For those who have the touring, would you recommend it? Does the premium come with only a single disc player? What are the opinions on resale of base vs touring? For those that will reply to get an 03 ,I need vehicle right away and I want the nav. (plus too much for poor me :))I am going to keep this thing for awhile so.... Just curious..
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| mgmdx |
hockeyplayer,
At the end of '01 model year I was faced with a similar decision, get '01 base + navi now or wait unknown additional number of months for '02 touring (touring + navi wasn't an option due to higher price constraint). We chose to go with '01. My decision process was as follows:
We plan on keeping our MDX for a long time (probably 7 to 10 years) so resale value difference was not much of an issue, especially taking into consideration the price increase for the next year model. My preference was for the Base MDX with Navigation. My thinking on the options available in the Touring package was (and still is) as follows:
Michelin tires - not a big deal, Goodyears will be upgraded when they wear out.
Different style wheels - I prefer the look of the base model wheels, touring wheels look too much like those on older Jeep Grand Cherokees (I also prefer the look of '01/'02 base rims over either base or touring rims on '03 MDXs).
8-way power pass seat - useless to me, you set it once and forget it, as usually the same passenger (spouse) will always ride in it.
Remote linked seat memory - nice feature which should have been standard, but not absolutely essential.
Pass mirror down-link in reverse - same as remote linked seat memory.
In-dash 6 disk CD changer - nice feature, but mostly listen to radio, I would only use it when going on long trips (which isn't very often), the rest of the time my CDs are stored in a CD juke box at home.
Bose system upgrade - not a significant enough difference (aside from 6-disk in-dash changer) to justify additional expense.
Roof Rack - factory roof rack is useless for my purposes, planned on installing Yakima rack to gain flexibility and to support my existing Yakima attachments.
To summarize, the only items in the Touring package that would have been marginally useful in our situation were memory seats and mirrors, and possibly 6-disk in-dash cd changer. In my mind, these items were not worth the extra $2,600. I chose to spend this money on Navigation ($2,000) and on some aditional accessories (see signature).
The additional improvements on '03 MDXs are nice, but are not very significant or critical, in my opinion. Because Navigation is not available on the base model, it is necessary to upgrade to the touring MDX (to get navi) at a much higher price point (~$4,800+?). In my opinion, touring package on the MDX is not a very good value, Navigation by itself is a much better choice (it has proven to be extremely useful and often indispensible over the last year of MDX ownership). As such, I highly recommend that you select '02 Base+Navigation over the '03 Touring package.
Of course, these are my opinions, and in the end the decision is strictly yours. Just make sure that you are happy with which-ever MDX model you get. |
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| hockeyplayer |
| Thankyou for the time spent mgmdx. I am going to spend the night thinking about your comments. At first I was a little disappointed at the lack of 6 disc changer standard but ,as you do, I listen to the radio 95% of the time(to figure out where to plot my path around accidents and traffic in atlanta.....ahhhh navigation).One question with the 6 disc changer is can you just slide a disc in and play or do you have to load it into the changer first? I do like the rims on the touring but can see how the premiums will grow on you. I don't even think I would use a roof rack but just seems naked without it IMHO. The power seat issue is making more sense to me. I didn't realize that the drivers side is 8 way power just not remote linked. I had it in my mind that they were manual. The passenger can adjust as they wish. They should be "happy" driving in my X. :)Does the tilting mirrors feature make parking easier? I have read posts of people who have learned to switch the mirror buttons a certain way so as not to have them tilt. Again thankyou for your time. You have enlightened me. I would still like to hear from someone who has the touring package. Man this site rocks! |
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| pthai |
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Originally posted by hockeyplayer
[BOne question with the 6 disc changer is can you just slide a disc in and play or do you have to load it into the changer first? [/B]
You can load the CD one at a time directly into the player and start to play them. There is no magazine that you have to load for the 6-disc in dash changer. |
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| marktr6 |
hockeyplayer,
I have an 02 MDX with touring I've had for about 2 1/2 months. I can agree with some of what mgmdx has to say. I have not even set the memory feature on my seats and mirrors yet. My wife and I drive with the seat in about the same place anyway. I'll get around to trying it soon.
The 6 disc CD changer is great for us. It loads up front in the dash, unlike the ML 320 we had, and extra CDs can be carried in the console or glove box. We go to a lake house just about every weekend and drive 2 1/2 hours each way. Not much choice in radio on the way beside country. Also have a son at college 3 hours away and listen to CDs a lot. We are big music fans. We have an old 1956 Seeburg jukebox that holds 100 45's. We can fill it up 3-4 times. The Bose system is not as good as it should be. I will probably look at upgrading soon. This is a lease vechicle, so I won't spend much on upgrading.
The tilting mirror for backups in a nice feature, but I could live without it. You can turn this feature off. It is covered in the manual I believe.
Michelin tires may last longer than the Goodyears. In my case I may be able to turn in the MDX after lease without having to have purchased new tires.
Roof rack is nothing more than cosmetic for us. It doesn't move and we probably will never put anything up there anyway.
Power passenger seats are nice feature if you travel a lot and want to easily adjust the seat front to back, pitch, etc. For everyday use around town, you probably won't use it much, we don't.
Hope this helps a bit. I had leased an ML 320 before the MDX and the ride and comfort level in the MDX is much better.
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| hockeyplayer |
| Thank you Mark for your Touring perspective. I really appreciate the info.I got a confirmation that the vehicle that they had in their inventory was on the the lot. The dealer was quick to add that the navigation is not available in the base of the 03. Can see where this is heading.:( ;) :o I was looking at Tims website last night. Great prices and you will hear from me soon. I am going to flat out offer 1000 lower than msrp. When they fight me on that what does one think of asking for sidesteps and roofrack. I figure I can leverage between myself and them installing them. That would just leave me with the mudguard and the BSM's which I will be more then happy to help Tim out on his commission Quota. Is that true....Free shipping:eek: Well am getting anxious so may see the phrase 02 SS Base that is trying to look like a touring soon. Again thanks for the replies. Oh and reading the reply on the Nav update got me "all warm and fuzzy inside":D |
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| elijahgreg |
I'm still not sure how to do this, but I have just ordered a 2003 MDX Touring with the Rear Entertainment Center in Starlight Silver with Quartz interior. It will arrive by mid-November. My dealer has been extremely nice and helpful and we have had me\any emails back and forth regarding the purchase. Theis reply is in response to the wait until Jan. '03, because my dealer did try to get me to get the navi system and I just did not feel I needed it. However, it would not have altered the arrival date according to him, and thus far all information he has given me has been right on, so I'm surprised you have to wait so long. You may try a different dealer.
By the way, did everyone know that Acura will be offerin Satellite Radio as an aftermarket add-on option. I don't think I'll get it, but its kind of neat. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by elijahgreg
By the way, did everyone know that Acura will be offerin Satellite Radio as an aftermarket add-on option. I don't think I'll get it, but its kind of neat.
Even if it was offered, I would be reluctant. Satellite radio is still in it's infancy and not selling as well as they expected.
Of course, the overall economy has a lot to do with that.
In addition, there is a plan to make the 2 systems (XM and Sirius) compatible. So I would expect some technological changes as well. I was considering adding it myself, but will wait and see what happens next year. |
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| marktr6 |
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In addition, there is a plan to make the 2 systems (XM and Sirius) compatible. So I would expect some technological changes as well.
Yeah--some of us can remember the Beta vs. VHS. Beta was actually the better format, but lost out to VHS. |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by marktr6
Yeah--some of us can remember the Beta vs. VHS. Beta was actually the better format, but lost out to VHS.
Very true! For a lousy extra hour of recording time, the public went for VHS like a bunch of sheep.
But a lot of those people would buy a Jeep before an MDX also! |
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| rogerk |
| Just took delivery of an 02 Premium in silver 2 days ago. Let me tell you, nothing like the bird in hand. I had been walking about a mile to the train station for 2 months now and waiting any longer just wasn't in the cards. 02 or 03, the bottom line is it is a great car. One thing about waiting (and reading the minutia on these boards) is that you kind of forget that. I could sit and explain to my wife that we really shouldn't be so happy because of this detail in the transmission, stability control, 20 hp, or any one of a number of other reasons. I won't waste my breath because she would look at me like I'm nuts and you know what, she would be right. |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by rogerk
Just took delivery of an 02 Premium in silver 2 days ago. Let me tell you, nothing like the bird in hand. I had been walking about a mile to the train station for 2 months now and waiting any longer just wasn't in the cards. 02 or 03, the bottom line is it is a great car. One thing about waiting (and reading the minutia on these boards) is that you kind of forget that. I could sit and explain to my wife that we really shouldn't be so happy because of this detail in the transmission, stability control, 20 hp, or any one of a number of other reasons. I won't waste my breath because she would look at me like I'm nuts and you know what, she would be right.
Congratulations!:D |
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| jj_mdx |
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Originally posted by rogerk
I could sit and explain to my wife that we really shouldn't be so happy because of this detail in the transmission, stability control, 20 hp, or any one of a number of other reasons. I won't waste my breath because she would look at me like I'm nuts and you know what, she would be right.
i did try to explain those issues to my wife and got exactly the same response from her...:3: she is right though...
enjoy your new X...:) |
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| mdxxxx |
quote:
Originally posted by marktr6
Yeah--some of us can remember the Beta vs. VHS. Beta was actually the better format, but lost out to VHS.
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Originally posted by DaleB
...For a lousy extra hour of recording time, the public went for VHS like a bunch of sheep...
Better in a sense, however, video rentals were predominately VHS format, so, in the end, he who has market share... wins.
Reminds me of MS Windows vs. Apple. People like options. If more developers create apps for Windows, more will use windows, if more tapes are available in VHS, people will go with that. Ain't the market great!?:p |
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| renov8r |
In the early days of net forums, when usenet was still king, it was said that "the thread had gone amuck when Hitler was cited" -- I'm pretty sure we could amend that to include Beta vs VHS and/or PC vs Mac...
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| case1906 |
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Originally posted by hockeyplayer
case or anyone with the premium, what are your opinions on the premium vs touring? Do you have any regrets? Reason being there is a premium nav at the nearest dealer right now that I am going to look at. I will see if they come off the price like they say on their mass email. Why do I doubt that. For those who have the touring, would you recommend it? Does the premium come with only a single disc player? What are the opinions on resale of base vs touring? For those that will reply to get an 03 ,I need vehicle right away and I want the nav. (plus too much for poor me :))I am going to keep this thing for awhile so.... Just curious..
Thanks
Hockeyplayer---mgmdx said it all. I have no regrets. The extra features didn't seem to justify the extra cash. I happen to like the Base wheels and have no use for rails on top of the vehicle. You can always add those. The reverse mirror item would be nice to have, but I'll rough it..............:4: |
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did try to explain those issues to my wife and got exactly the same response from her... she is right though...
After careful discussion with my wife, I think it is our best interest to get the 02 model instead of 03 one, since most refinement are internal, and you may not notice it. I was able to get the dealership to discount the 02 Touring +Navi at the price I am paying for 03 Touring. Now I am driving my brand new 02 Touring+Nav, and have no regard. I think I won't miss that 20hp or the "drive-by-wire" throttle. And If Acura is correct, I can just upgrade my 02 Navi to the 03 Navi with a software upgrade. |
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Originally posted by 2003MDX
After careful discussion with my wife, I think it is our best interest to get the 02 model instead of 03 one, since most refinement are internal, and you may not notice it. I was able to get the dealership to discount the 02 Touring +Navi at the price I am paying for 03 Touring. Now I am driving my brand new 02 Touring+Nav, and have no regard. I think I won't miss that 20hp or the "drive-by-wire" throttle. And If Acura is correct, I can just upgrade my 02 Navi to the 03 Navi with a software upgrade.
Good move and congratulation. It would have been a big loss to own an X without the Acura navi (or you could get lost easier). Now you don't have to wait around the rest of the year while your honorable Acura deeler spoon feeds you crap as to when your 03 will actually show up.
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