| paul123 |
| Just curious to see where the dealer put the weights on your tires when you had the wheel balacing done at the 15k check-up. I forgot to mention to the dealer to put the weights on the inside of the wheel and noticed they had hammered the weights on the outside of the wheels. I personally don't like the way they look and makes much harder to clean and eventually stains the wheels were the weights are. Did anyone have the same problems with weights on the outside or did most of the other dealers go for the inside weights right away? I hope when I remove the weights, the wheel is not scratched? I let you guys know the outcome. Any opinions greatly appreciated. |
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| DaleB |
| I thought it is not always possible to obtain the best dynamic balance by only applying weights to one side. |
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| paul123 |
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Originally posted by DaleB
I thought it is not always possible to obtain the best dynamic balance by only applying weights to one side.
Are yours on both sides of wheels? |
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| srpbep |
I agree with DaleB. As I understand it, you have a choice between:
** Looks
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** Good wheel Balance |
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| paul123 |
quote:
Originally posted by srpbep
I agree with DaleB. As I understand it, you have a choice between:
** Looks
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** Good wheel Balance
Where are the weights on your wheels? Both sides or one side? |
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| paul123 |
| They have weights that are applied to inside of the wheels which I heard can give the same quality of balancing. Very expensive wheels like the corvette use these internal weights instead of outer weights. |
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| srpbep |
paul123,
On all our cars, the weights are the "clip type hammer on":
MDX: 3 wheels have weights on both sides, 4th wheel has weight only on the inner edge.
Accord: 3 wheels have weights on both sides, 4th wheel has weight only on the outer edge.
I did have a Bricklin SV1 and did not want weights on the outside. Glue on weights were placed on the inside of the rim (not the edge, rather the inside). Was a real pain to get them balanced this way, really showed up at higher speeds. |
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| BaldEagle |
I had always believed that a proper wheel balance required an equal amount of weights on the front and back side of the rim.
That is the way I was taught when working at a gas station (many years ago, how many, don't ask) We used the old bubble balancer, did not have a spin balancer where I worked. |
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| paul123 |
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Originally posted by srpbep
paul123,
On all our cars, the weights are the "clip type hammer on":
MDX: 3 wheels have weights on both sides, 4th wheel has weight only on the inner edge.
Accord: 3 wheels have weights on both sides, 4th wheel has weight only on the outer edge.
I did have a Bricklin SV1 and did not want weights on the outside. Glue on weights were placed on the inside of the rim (not the edge, rather the inside). Was a real pain to get them balanced this way, really showed up at higher speeds.
Thanks for the response, I think I'm going to have re-balanced with the internal weights that acura used from the factory. I never had a problem with the oringinal even in excess of 100 mph. I have heard from numerious people in past that the best balance was achieved by using both sides as you stated. I just don't like the outer ones because when the wheel gets re-balanced down the road and weights are moved the wheel gets stained and had a nightmare time to clean back to normal. |
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| mogur |
Weights on the inside of the wheel work best on low profile tires like the Corvette and other high performance vehilces with low aspect ratio tires. On truck tires like the MDX, you get a much better balance be using weights on the rim edge. On the other hand, my BMW with 40 series profile tires has them on the inside. I also have been told this by many good balance guys over the years.
With modem dynamic balancers you will almost never have symmetrical weights inside and out and also may have them on only one side of the wheel if that is what is needed to achieve balance.
Tom
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Originally posted by paul123
They have weights that are applied to inside of the wheels which I heard can give the same quality of balancing. Very expensive wheels like the corvette use these internal weights instead of outer weights.
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| hockeyplayer |
Quote from Paul123:
" I never had a problem with the oringinal even in excess of 100 mph. "
Holy crap....Haven't worked up the cahunas to go that fast in my X. I guess it is nice to know that I can if I am REALLY REALLY late.
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| paul123 |
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Originally posted by hockeyplayer
Quote from Paul123:
" I never had a problem with the oringinal even in excess of 100 mph. "
Holy crap....Haven't worked up the cahunas to go that fast in my X. I guess it is nice to know that I can if I am REALLY REALLY late.
;)
Nothing to do with being late just have a need for speed once in a while. On do late at night when no cars on the highway, and always on a long straight highway. I believe I've hit 125-130 mph for an instant, then backed down. It's tough to look at the speedometer at that speed, things are moving so fast don't want to take eyes off highway even for an instant. |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by paul123
... I believe I've hit 125-130 mph for an instant, then backed down. It's tough to look at the speedometer at that speed, things are moving so fast don't want to take eyes off highway even for an instant.
Good going paul123! Glad to know another who "airs the X out" occasionally! :4: :5: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by mdxxxx
Good going paul123! Glad to know another who "airs the X out" occasionally! :4: :5:
"another"? Tsk, Tsk!!:14:
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| JTM |
When I replaced the tires on my parents' car in Taiwan. The Michelin dealership weight the tires by STICK those weight (metal piece or whatever you call it) on the rim.
This way, no one could see the metal clips on either side of tire. You could only see it on the RIM. The wheel looks much better with it. |
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| DaleB |
I think you mean inside the wheel? Stick on weights are not new, but in the past have not been that reliable (fall off).
You can place them closer to the center plane of the wheel which it seems negates the need to split them between the inner and our rims.
I will go for whatever gives the best balance even though the clip ons don't do much cosmetically. |
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| edepa |
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Originally posted by paul123
[B......... I believe I've hit 125-130 mph for an instant, then backed down......... [/B]
Dayum Paul! I'm impressed, but can't be on the Long Island Distressway, can it? :eek: |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by DaleB
"another"? Tsk, Tsk!!:14:
:rolleyes:
Come on, DaleB. You know highways 580 and 680 and especially 280 are prime speedways at night. I dont have to even mention I5. (the low flying aircraft zone) :D
Lets see, was that a GG I saw? Fess up!...;) :4: |
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| DaleB |
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Originally posted by mdxxxx
Come on, DaleB. You know highways 580 and 680 and especially 280 are prime speedways at night. I dont have to even mention I5. (the low flying aircraft zone) :D
Lets see, what that a GG I saw? Fess up!...;) :4:
Actually 101 is more limited but offers much more flat straight real estate.
280 has some fast cars on it though! ....at least from what I've observed......:31: |
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| paul123 |
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Originally posted by edepa
Dayum Paul! I'm impressed, but can't be on the Long Island Distressway, can it? :eek:
Cross Island Pakway and Grand Central st 2:00 AM to 4:00 AM. Long Island Expressway is a little daring with Highway Patrols. |
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| edepa |
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Originally posted by paul123
Cross Island Pakway and Grand Central st 2:00 AM to 4:00 AM. Long Island Expressway is a little daring with Highway Patrols.
Paul, you duh man! Just watch out for duh man in blue! :eek: |
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| mdxxxx |
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Originally posted by DaleB
Actually 101 is more limited but offers much more flat straight real estate.
280 has some fast cars on it though! ....at least from what I've observed......:31:
Observed huh... ok, If you say so...:31::D |
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